OK, i know i'm doing something wrong .. (morrowind help PLZ!)

[SsilverR]

After juggling with it for a while i finally let my mate convince me into buying morrowind .. is it just me or is this game just brutally hard?

I've always played and preffered stealth classes .. specifically a bowman because for some reason i always go with woodelf and they don't do too well in close combat (+they start with a nice boost to markesman) ... so now either i'm not getting this game or something's gone horribly wrong in my statting somewhere

first of all .. normal rats seem to be able to kill me in a few hits and GOD help me if i actually encounter human/humanoid enemies, i'm usually able to just about win if i get the drop on them but for some reason it won't register my crit/stealth bonus ... and sometimes i aim the shot perfectly and NOTHING ... goes right through them

i can't find a decent stealth guide out there and i've tried about 4 - 5 new chars with different stats just to see and i usually get the same deal (my damage is crap and i always get 3 shotted by some slug)

does the stealth system work the same way here as it does in oblivion???? help plz >.<

 

[MisterMaster]

Maybe your difficulty is set too high.

 

[piplink]

morrowinds combat system is dice roll based, you have to upgrade your marksman skill to get a higher attack to miss ratio. i would start with a customised figher character to start with. and bring lots of potions and armor, buy stronger weapons, and train on weak enimies first.

 

[Xelt]

It's hard to start with, you will miss a lot. But, I think if you increase your agility stat, and the stat to go with weapon you're using, then you should be able to hit things.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Stealth isn't the greatest in Morrowind. Train up your conjuration skill so you can summon a bound longbow, which should wreck pretty much everything. My experience with playing stealth classes in that game is that if it ever ends up in melee, something has gone horribly wrong haha.

 

[Scabadus]

The shot goign through them is natural, Morrowind used a system slightly closer to D&D than Oblivion does: when range and aim is correct for a wepaon the game performs a hidden "to hit" roll and you sometimes miss. It'll happen less often as you level up. Wood elves arn't known for great amounts of health, so try choosing Alchemy as a a minor skill and mixing up healing potions, or concentrating on raising your Endurance stat (remember that health isn't gained retroactivly for past levels so do this while you're 'young').

Bear in mind too that a melee sneak attack does more damage than a ranged one and that enemies in Morrowind can't cross across cell boundries. If you're really hurt run out the door and heal up.

 

[Pearwood]

Buy a load of cheap arrows and train your marksman. You should also fire a shot at nothing and see if you get experience for it, I've spent too long yesterday just stood in front of an altar getting my destruction skill up by shooting at walls.

 

[SsilverR]

morrowinds combat system is dice roll based, you have to upgrade your marksman skill to get a higher attack to miss ratio. i would start with a customised figher character to start with. and bring lots of potions and armor, buy stronger weapons, and train on weak enimies first.

... ok so it's basically an rpg but in realtime ... damn ... so do you recommend i not stray out into the wilds and do dungeons until i get some upgrades?

 

[DEAD34345]

You're not really doing anything wrong, Morrowind is much harder than Oblivion (at least at earlier levels). Stealth bowmen is my favourite class too, but I always add in a melee skill for when my stealthing goes wrong or my arrows don't kill people fast enough. add in shortblade or something like that and you should be able to deal with most threats, and then level up until you become a god.

Oh and remember, Morrowind doesn't have the same level scaling system as Oblivion, so you will bump into things you cannot defeat yet. Save often, and if you know you can't beat an enemy then just run for it.

 

[Jordi]

I remember Morrowind being challenging in the beginning, but as a fighter/mage I didn't really have any major problems. It kind of makes sense to me that as a stealth archer you are quite vulnerable. I mean, if something gets close to you then you have already kind of failed at both the stealth and the "long range" parts of your character archetype. It seems to me that if you want to play a character like that you have to be constantly careful and on your guard. I personally don't really like that, so I also don't know how the stealth is in Morrowind. I bet you can find a lot of mods making it better though (the same goes for archery), so maybe you can try that.

If, like me, you are not a big fan of the stealth archer type, and want to be able to fight enemies toe-to-toe as well, I suggest just putting some points into skills/attributes that are more suited for a fighter type character. IIRC it doesn't matter much in the end, because you can pretty much max all of your skills eventually.

 

[joshuaayt]

You need a very good Agility, to start off as a bowman- low initial stat means that you'll hit maybe once every five shots, otherwise. Pick the Thief birthsign, I think that has an agility boost.

Stealth doesn't really work in Morrowind- at least not like it does in Oblivion. Pretty sure there is no stealth bonus for damage aside from the ability to get a few hits in before the enemy can react.

Here-http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Morrowind

Everything you'll need, ever. And don't feel bad about using the wiki, it's almost necessary sometimes.

 

[EHKOS]

AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! *falls into thread dropping three scrolls*
I have never really played stealth, I'm more of an attack attack kill kill kinda guy, but even if you hit them perfectly, it could still fail due to the game using tabletop rules. Under the hood, you still have to pass a marksman check which in low levels can be very frustrating. Even when fighting you have to hit them many times to actually do anything.

 

[Kahunaburger]

morrowinds combat system is dice roll based, you have to upgrade your marksman skill to get a higher attack to miss ratio. i would start with a customised figher character to start with. and bring lots of potions and armor, buy stronger weapons, and train on weak enimies first.

... ok so it's basically an rpg but in realtime ... damn ... so do you recommend i not stray out into the wilds and do dungeons until i get some upgrades?

It's more just about knowing when to run. Also, based on the way the classes work, you're better off not focusing on being a rogue/warrior/mage. Each general area of focus will have about 2-4 skills that are actually relevant to the way you want to play. For instance, like I said above in this thread, archers should really get a little conjuration because bound weapons (esp. bound longows) are some of the strongest in the game. Later on, you can also summon minions to get between you and the enemies.

Also get alchemy. Alchemy is incredibly OP, and basically one of the best skills for any character of any class.

 

[Raijha]

My only time I managed to get all the way through Morrowind was with a Paladin-esque character. Long blade, block, heavy armor, repair, healing magic and the star sign the gave you turn undead......

I still died, a lot! Morrowind is a pretty hard game, you really really need to put time into non combat training if you can, definitely get your skills up as much as possible before going into dungeons, also be careful, the other thing about Morrowind is the enemies (i think at least) arent scaled to you like in oblivion, so if you walk into the wrong area there will be much om nom nom by crazy dangerous monsters

 

[Weaver]

Your problem is the bow. If I recall correctly, they were pretty bad.

 

[Cridhe]

I feel your pain, bud. I found Oblivion to just be way too much to handle, and I didn't want my only solution to have to be to turn down the difficulty. The default setting shouldn't be the video game equivalent of butt-rape. Here's the kicker... it just got harder the more I leveled up, too.

 

[DaHero]

AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! *falls into thread dropping three scrolls*
I have never really played stealth, I'm more of an attack attack kill kill kinda guy, but even if you hit them perfectly, it could still fail due to the game using tabletop rules. Under the hood, you still have to pass a marksman check which in low levels can be very frustrating. Even when fighting you have to hit them many times to actually do anything.

Oh sweet free scrolls! *reads*

 

[Ranorak]

I had a question regarding training.

I spend hours wasting my time in Oblivion hitting those training dummies, thinking it would raise my skill.
Does the same apply to morrowind?
Do I have to hit viable targets in order to increase the skill?
Enemies with a bow/sword/destruction magic?
or can I hit walls, etc?

 

[M0rp43vs]

I recommend at least having a minor skill in something like any bladed weapon.
Though my brother's character has been a stealth type(marksman, sneak, lockpicking, short sword, no magic and minor in light armor) and starting off, he died quite a bit.

What I told him to do and what he did for a couple a levels, hang around the cities, do a couple a jobs for guilds but more importantly take advantage of stealth to nick anything not nailed down and sell them to someone who'll "buy it at a high price"(I recommend Creeper in the Orc manor in caldera, buys armor and jewels at full price).

Save enough to buy training and some really good equipment. With good enough equipment, you might be able to survive long enough to train your skills on weak enemies.

Also, exploit the bad AI. Find anyway to get levitation(a charm, spell, potion)
to get on a rock to pick them off while they try to get to you.

Starting off in the game is pretty hard especially with a non combat class. Expect to die a lot.
But stick with it, learn the nuances of the game, and enjoy this amazing game