Old-Time Rockers Don't Like Rock Band

[KnowYourOnion]

Old-Time Rockers Don't Like Rock Band

Why so many kids aren't interested in learning how to play a real instrument.[/B]

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This is coming from a bassist.......
Please don't kill me bassists of the world, I used to be one of your number

 

[FloodOne]

I have nothing against these games myself, as long as nobody acts impressed by anybody who is good at them. When you get people who show more reverence for how good somebody is at pretending to be a musician than being a real one, then you have issues.

Nobody should be impressed with anyone's skill in any videogame. Like, ever.

 

[hansari]

I actually have to agree with this. After seeing several friends of mine put a LOT less time into their instruments since rock band has come out, it's been a pretty big disappointment. Really, though, that quote is so true. If people put the same time and energy into a real instrument as they did getting expert on whatever song, they'd have the potential to be pretty amazing musicians..

In reality, no. He does have a fair point though, if they did spend the time with a real musical instrument then they'd be on their way at least.

But thats the formula argument for anything. All the time you spend on ____ you could be ______ and be really good at it.

Fact is, if you really have an interest in something, you will do it. This is just another "weening" out process. If you get a thrill mashing colored buttons and pretending, so be it.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

"It irritates me having watched my kids do it - if they spent as much time practicing the guitar as learning how to press the buttons they'd be damn good by now," he said.

They'd also be learning to shag groupies, snort coke, explain where the STD's come from, wreck hotel rooms, watch their contemporaries die from overdoses, and other stuff that Guitar Hero just can't prepare you for.

Um, no.
1. Kids who play the guitar do not necessarily form bands.
2. Kids who form bands do not necessarily do the things you said.
3. Guitar itself is nothing to do with those things, in fact, it's incredibly hypocritical to go around saying videogames aren't a bad influence but guitar, well that will fuck you up nicely.

 

[fenrizz]

Learning how to read notes requires the same effort it takes as pressing a color right when it comes on screen?

You don't really have to be able to read notes to play the guitar though.
And pressing them colored buttons in order and such have similarities to playing guitar for real.
Not the same thing, I know, but I get his point.

 

[NeutralDrow]

I almost wish I could say I empathize, but I don't. I disagree with both of them.

Besides, until they come out with Clarinet Hero, my position is secure.

 

[Inarticulate_Underachiever]

They both forget that the games are aimed at casual fans who enjoy the chance to recreate playing songs by their favourite artists. Honestly, I'd say with the dawn of easy to access music via youtube, last.fm and downloads more, not less, people are picking up musical instruments, albeit the popular ones that are associated with a modern rock band (e.g. guitar, bass, drums)

 

[happysock]

The fact is without Rock Band and Guitar Hero most kids today wouldn't be interested in Rock, at all.

Not really a fact is it.

 

[Avatar Roku]

"It irritates me having watched my kids do it - if they spent as much time practicing the guitar as learning how to press the buttons they'd be damn good by now," he said.

They'd also be learning to shag groupies, snort coke, explain where the STD's come from, wreck hotel rooms, watch their contemporaries die from overdoses, and other stuff that Guitar Hero just can't prepare you for.

Um, no.
1. Kids who play the guitar do not necessarily form bands.
2. Kids who form bands do not necessarily do the things you said.
3. Guitar itself is nothing to do with those things, in fact, it's incredibly hypocritical to go around saying videogames aren't a bad influence but guitar, well that will fuck you up nicely.

Dude, fairly sure he was joking.

 

[Random Argument Man]

Oh gods, I would absolutely kill for a Pink Floyd Rock Band game...

Dude....Same here....Kill and drag to people to hell...

 

[Hikikomori Ookami]

I've tried learning how to play the guitar. I don't have the dexterity for it (or something). Rockband, like many other games, is my way of doing something that I'd like to do but can't for one reason or another.

 

[DRADIS C0ntact]

I love it when celebrities state their baseless opinions as if they're facts to the media.

I'm eagerly anticipating the day when a professional boxer will condemn the Fight Night games for encouraging kids not to want to jump in the ring and knock a sucka out.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

The fact is without Rock Band and Guitar Hero most kids today wouldn't be interested in Rock, at all.

Not really a fact is it.

I keep seeing this ignorant, ignorant statement time and time again.

That doesn't really sound like anything resembling a fact.

What? Are you kidding?

Wow, people really didn't like that. Let me retract that "fact" a moment. All I'm saying is that these games have worked wonders for this generation. I should know, I'm part of it. It's certainly helped the Rock genre more than it's hurt it, a hell of a lot more. Personally I think the old timers should be grateful that these classics have been brought to this generation in a brand new form, one that is compatible with an era where video games are nearly as popular as music or films.

Sure there are people who listened to rock before Guitar Hero and there still is, I'm just saying it helped.

 

[happysock]

The fact is without Rock Band and Guitar Hero most kids today wouldn't be interested in Rock, at all.

Not really a fact is it.

I keep seeing this ignorant, ignorant statement time and time again.

That doesn't really sound like anything resembling a fact.

What? Are you kidding?

Wow, people really didn't like that. Let me retract that "fact" a moment. All I'm saying is that these games have worked wonders for this generation. I should know, I'm part of it. It's certainly helped the Rock genre more than it's hurt it, a hell of a lot more. Personally I think the old timers should be grateful that these classics have been brought to this generation in a brand new form, one that is compatible with an era where video games are nearly as popular as music or films.

Sure there are people who listened to rock before Guitar Hero and there still is, I'm just saying it helped.

Thats better I do agree it has helped the rock side of the music industry massively, however I was into rock way before guitar hero and rockband which was why I pulled you up on it

 

[DonalM]

"It irritates me having watched my kids do it - if they spent as much time practicing the guitar as learning how to press the buttons they'd be damn good by now," he said.

They'd also be learning to shag groupies, snort coke, explain where the STD's come from, wreck hotel rooms, watch their contemporaries die from overdoses, and other stuff that Guitar Hero just can't prepare you for.

Um, no.
1. Kids who play the guitar do not necessarily form bands.
2. Kids who form bands do not necessarily do the things you said.
3. Guitar itself is nothing to do with those things, in fact, it's incredibly hypocritical to go around saying videogames aren't a bad influence but guitar, well that will fuck you up nicely.

You know, doctors have perfected the surgery that pulls the rod from one's butt and allows them to get a joke.



But I digress. Do Bart Starr and Joe Montana argue that the Madden series somehow makes kids think they are as good as NFL players?

Do the Andretti's say that about racing games?

Do Army Special Forces guys say that about Call of Duty 4?

No, of course not.

And to those that say that the time you spend on GH or RB is equal to practicing a real instrument either never really played, aren't very good, or are so damned old they forgot how hard it was to get good.

I played when I was younger. I wasn't very good. I'm simply not gifted with musical talent. Much in the same way I'm not gifted with world class athletic ability or the various abilities to be a Navy SEAL.

Videogames allow to escape from my average life for a few minutes and entertain myself with these little fantasies.

So, fuck all the douchebag music snobs (and that is exactly what you are) who try and ruin that little bit of fun for me.

 

[Kiutu]

Real instruments are not simple to pick up and play with friends and family for the sake of fun.

 

[DanielPowell33]

All i want is Led Zeppelin in Guitar Hero/Rock Band.

 

[iamthehorde]

grumpy old dudes. it´s stupid to think someone who wants to make real music will not learn an instrument because of rock band or something. these dudes should be glad kids even get to know their music nowadays through said music games. and guess what old guys: some people just want to have fun pretending they play music. it´s much easier to learn guitar hero on medium than learning guitar and if all you want to do is somehow replay the shit for fun why rant on that?

 

[curlycrouton]

The fact is without Rock Band and Guitar Hero most kids today wouldn't be interested in Rock, at all.

Seriously?

Are you being serious?

Or is that sarcasm?

Please let it be sarcasm.

Please.