The only reason private citizens need for guns is hunting and competition shooting. Not for making the government fear them and certainly not for taking the law into their own hands.Rolling Thunder said:In fairness, the state should not pass laws that impair a private citizen from protecting himself. In essence, you shouldn't prohibit weapons if there is a need for private citizens to carry them.
Partially to defend oneself, but also on principle that I should not have them taken from me.NoMoreSanity said:That definitly doesn't say anything at all.Radeonx said:I second this motion. And Sanity, you are spot on. Except I like guns..and have them..and am in the general populace. But whatever.
But why do the General Populace need guns? The only reason I can think of is hunting, and that actually serves a purpose unlike having a gun for no reason.Cortheya said:Snip
I'm smart enough not to do crimes with guns for stupid reasons, though. The gun I have, is mainly for protection, because during school, the town I'm in is crime filled. I feel though that if guns were to be banned it would help crime, to a certain extent. Although people would still find a way to get guns.NoMoreSanity said:That definitly doesn't say anything at all.Radeonx said:I second this motion. And Sanity, you are spot on. Except I like guns..and have them..and am in the general populace. But whatever.
But why do the General Populace need guns? The only reason I can think of is hunting, and that actually serves a purpose unlike having a gun for no reason.Cortheya said:Snip
Flawed logic. Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rateThe Austin said:If everybody carried a gun the government would respect its people.
(Not to mention there would be no crime, who would rob a bank knowing there are 20 people with pistols right behind you?)
If guns were banned it would go like this:
"Hey dude, lets rob a bank!!!"
"dude, we cant, guns are illigal."
"Oh $^%& I suppose they are. darn."
But if you outlaw guns, then the only people who have guns will be criminals who obtain them through the black market.NoMoreSanity said:But why do the General Populace need guns? The only reason I can think of is hunting, and that actually serves a purpose unlike having a gun for no reason.
No. I didn't say that. I said I agree with you, but even if guns were banned people would still find a way to get them. It wouldn't matter.NoMoreSanity said:So, the way to stop crime is to give every single person a gun? Brilliant, hand out the Assualt Rifles immediatly.Radeonx said:I'm smart enough not to do crimes with guns for stupid reasons, though. The gun I have, is mainly for protection, because during school, the town I'm in is crime filled. I feel though that if guns were to be banned it would help crime, to a certain extent. Although people would still find a way to get guns.NoMoreSanity said:That definitly doesn't say anything at all.Radeonx said:I second this motion. And Sanity, you are spot on. Except I like guns..and have them..and am in the general populace. But whatever.
But why do the General Populace need guns? The only reason I can think of is hunting, and that actually serves a purpose unlike having a gun for no reason.Cortheya said:Snip
My thoughts exactly!Arhy said:But if you outlaw guns, then the only people who have guns will be criminals who obtain them through the black market.NoMoreSanity said:But why do the General Populace need guns? The only reason I can think of is hunting, and that actually serves a purpose unlike having a gun for no reason.
And if only criminals have guns and no one else does, then it won't be the government running the country anyway, it'll be the drug lords or the new gun suppliers who will be able to take what they want, leaving law-abiding citizens(who have no guns) no way to defend themselves.
No, you can. I have one in a gun safe! With some beer in it. Woo, America!NoMoreSanity said:So I can't have an Assualt Rifle then? Fuck!Radeonx said:No. I didn't say that. I said I agree with you, but even if guns were banned people would still find a way to get them. It wouldn't matter.
They don't reign over you completely. In the USA you have a chance to change the government every four years. If the government does something you don't like you vote them out and if the majority disagree with you and keep them in power, you are probably wrong.Cortheya said:They should NOT have the power to restrict us. Just because people voted for them they can't reign over us completely.EMFCRACKSHOT said:They have every right to place retrictions on you as they are your leagally democratically elected geovernment. You trust them to do whats in the best interest of the country but have the opportunity to remove them in an election. The whole concept of the public needing weaponry to keep the government afraid of them is outdated in this modern, more civilised world. At least in places like the USA and GB.
The government should not fear the people, but the people should not fear the government. They should trust each other to work for the betterment of all.
The government excersises some level control on almost everything you do. It has to because people cannot control themselves in a manner that is productive for the majority.
How though, if sale of guns were illegal everywhere. If you actually keep a tight border and make sure no one ships guns in. How would anyone get them ? I'm sure you know, some really big mafia guys might. But we're talking about the average street gangster who got high and ran wild with a gun. Is he going to be able to get a gun as easily? NoRadeonx said:No. I didn't say that. I said I agree with you, but even if guns were banned people would still find a way to get them. It wouldn't matter.