Outland Review

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I love platformers and Ikaruga, so I'm definitely interested, but I haven't picked it up incase Sony offers it as a free download once the PSN comes back. Not to mention I'm out of MS points and I am waiting for a replacement debit card.

It's nice to see an XBLA game for only 800 points. Not that Braid and LIMBO weren't worth every penny, but I'm glad 1200 isn't the new norm.
 

Susan Arendt

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Sweet. Another awesome indie title to add to my XBLA library. While I never played Ikaruga, the concept seems like one I'd enjoy.
 

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I'm in the same boat as Cursed Frogurt, but the good news is it does look really good. Reminds me of the Indiana Jones game on the SNES a bit, except with more bullets. Yay!
 

Zhukov

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Heh. What you describe in the video is exactly what happened to me.

"Ohhh, Steam sale: Lara Croft: GTOL."

"Hey, didn't that one Escapist reviewer say it was really good? Guess I'll give it a shot then."

"Holy crap! This game is fun as hell!"

Thanks for that by the way.

...

As for Outland, I was willing to buy it after seeing one screenshot. Sadly I lack the necessary consoles. Ah well.
 

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Well the visuals are indeed impressively trippy, I'm not really a platformer but I can appreciate a simple gimmick applied well.
 

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Looks like a nice little game. Quick question: XBLA exclusive, or will it get to PSN when it eventually comes back? It looks like my kind of game.
 

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Agree wholeheartedly. The game is beautiful, the controls tight and responsive enough to make sure any mistake you make is your fault entirely (almost on par with Super Meat Boy in tightness), and the boss fights DO NOT disappoint. So good <3
 

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It's been a long time since I've bothered to watch one of the review supplement videos. You've improved considerably since the last time I watched.

Now that I've seen how this looks in action, I'll definitely get it. Once PSN comes back. Assuming it's one of the choices for a free download. Or until it's on sale.
 

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Mr. Omega said:
Looks like a nice little game. Quick question: XBLA exclusive, or will it get to PSN when it eventually comes back? It looks like my kind of game.
According to the review, it's also on PSN.
 

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I WANT A MOTHERFUCKING CREDIT CARD! I'm missing out on so many awesome titles that would so neatly fit my tight budget, it's sadistic!
 

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One thing that I didn't like about this game is that the world doesn't seem organic. Like this could never exist.

The platforms look like platforms and the nonsensical stuff that shoots out the white/black dots don't blend at all.

Take any Mario or the new Donkey Kong Country Returns. The levels look organic or they at least try to make it blend.

I know this is a budget title but w/e, thought it'd be worth a mention. Still a great little game but it looks as abstract as N+ does for me.
 

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Mister Benoit said:
One thing that I didn't like about this game is that the world doesn't seem organic. Like this could never exist.

The platforms look like platforms and the nonsensical stuff that shoots out the white/black dots don't blend at all.

Take any Mario or the new Donkey Kong Country Returns. The levels look organic or they at least try to make it blend.

I know this is a budget title but w/e, thought it'd be worth a mention. Still a great little game but it looks as abstract as N+ does for me.
Huh, that's an interesting complaint, and not one I'd ever heard about platformers before. You're certainly accurate in your evaluation, though.
 

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This looks like just what I need right now. Stupid PSN. Stupid hackers. BAH! I'll go back to sulking.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Mister Benoit said:
One thing that I didn't like about this game is that the world doesn't seem organic. Like this could never exist.

The platforms look like platforms and the nonsensical stuff that shoots out the white/black dots don't blend at all.

Take any Mario or the new Donkey Kong Country Returns. The levels look organic or they at least try to make it blend.

I know this is a budget title but w/e, thought it'd be worth a mention. Still a great little game but it looks as abstract as N+ does for me.
Huh, that's an interesting complaint, and not one I'd ever heard about platformers before. You're certainly accurate in your evaluation, though.
Aside from that not a fan of the "golden path" thing they put in the game which advises players where to go. The world isn't on the scale of Super Metroid of Castlevania: SotN so it's kind of odd that they're trying to make it even more linear.

You might be able to turn that off but I didn't get to check.

I wish their budget would of been a little bigger.

These guys would've made an awesome Tron platformer.
 

Susan Arendt

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Mister Benoit said:
Susan Arendt said:
Mister Benoit said:
One thing that I didn't like about this game is that the world doesn't seem organic. Like this could never exist.

The platforms look like platforms and the nonsensical stuff that shoots out the white/black dots don't blend at all.

Take any Mario or the new Donkey Kong Country Returns. The levels look organic or they at least try to make it blend.

I know this is a budget title but w/e, thought it'd be worth a mention. Still a great little game but it looks as abstract as N+ does for me.
Huh, that's an interesting complaint, and not one I'd ever heard about platformers before. You're certainly accurate in your evaluation, though.
Aside from that not a fan of the "golden path" thing they put in the game which advises players where to go. The world isn't on the scale of Super Metroid of Castlevania: SotN so it's kind of odd that they're trying to make it even more linear.

You might be able to turn that off but I didn't get to check.

I wish their budget would of been a little bigger.

These guys would of made an awesome Tron platformer.
"would have" or alternatively, "would've".

Hadn't considered the Tron inspiration myself, but there's definitely a resemblance, isn't there?

I personally didn't find the "golden path" to be too obtrusive, and found it actually came in handy when I'd been away from the game for a while and didn't quite remember where I was supposed to be headed.
 

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Dammit.

Screw Halo Reach and Modern Warfare 2. I want an X360 just so I can play stuff like this!

Fuck, why do all the good indie and old-school games never get to Steam?

What? Way more people own X360s than PCs? Well... I guess that explains it then.
 

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kind of reminds me of samurai jack.
And it reminds me of Patapon.

Still, having played both "Plants vs Zombies" and "Laura Croft: Guardian of Light" and having loved them both I will definatly be giving this game a look.
 

Susan Arendt

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Great review. I have the demo, will be buying it soon.

Side question, in the video review you mention 'it's hard, but fair'. I think I know what you mean, but does anyone know of a hard game that isn't fair?? I couldn't think of one.
 

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This really really reminds of Samurai Jack, and for that reason alone I'd be getting it. However it does also look awesome.
 

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I'm usually not on the end of people who disagree with a difficulty assessment, as I'm not the most skilled gamer, but I really didn't find Outland to be that difficult. I really only got hit on a few choice overlaping bullet sections, or, I made a clumsy jump, so it was more my fault than anything.

As for the bosses, they were kind of easy. Except for the dragon. The Dragon can go screw.

I went into the first 4 boss fights with, in order, 2 hearts, 3 hearts, and 3 hearts (which went up to 4 because of the enemies in the middle section), and I had no problem klling them on my first run. The Dragon was actually hard, though; well, at least for me. The firsat part is easy, especially if you're willing to spam that energy gathering wave thing. It's when you've got him down to his final weak point that the level becomes spammy itself. Now, the final boss was just pure tedious; I've never been so happy to have double damage (Sword of the Gods. Woo!) because that fight just dragged on.
 

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Well, I'd like to try it, but I don't own an Xbox.

And I rarely game on my PS3, not to mention that PSN is down.
 

Mister Benoit

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Sober Thal said:
Great review. I have the demo, will be buying it soon.

Side question, in the video review you mention 'it's hard, but fair'. I think I know what you mean, but does anyone know of a hard game that isn't fair?? I couldn't think of one.
Go back to the nes era of side scrolling beat em ups, just meant to steal quarters.

Also Mario Kart 150cc with rubber band ai.

Most Recently the end boss of Mortal Kombat apparently.

Also game's that are hard because you fight the controls half the time like Saw.

Lastly work of all game's that are only hard because of a required grind.
 

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I bought this game and played past the High Priestess part so far. Beautiful game. The colours pop out exactly in a (good) Tron sort of way. The only problem I have is that there's a problem seeing where the platforms are in some places. It's a small gripe, but a gripe nonetheless. I can't imagine them highlighting ledges as in Uncharted or something. This was problem a dev room argument at the studio.

Great review for a great game. Worth every point.
 

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Guess why I won't play this? It ain't on he PC!
Wasn't SMB on XBLA first too, and then they ported it to PC? I don't know since I got it on Steam right away. Anyway maybe if Outland's popular enough on xbox and playstation they'll make a PC version as well. That's what I'm hoping for at least.

EDIT: I quoted you but this is pretty much directed at everyone who wants a PC version. Just didn't want to quote them all.
 

Susan Arendt

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Sober Thal said:
Great review. I have the demo, will be buying it soon.

Side question, in the video review you mention 'it's hard, but fair'. I think I know what you mean, but does anyone know of a hard game that isn't fair?? I couldn't think of one.
Ever played a game that has cheap hits? Getting killed by stuff you can't see, or shitty camera? That's a hard, but unfair, game.

ryo02 said:
Outland ... wasnt there a movie called that with Sean Connery?
Yup. It's a sci fi remake of High Noon, and it's awesome.
 

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Oh no, a reason to care that PSN is down... Then again, a new game that I'm actually interested in! Argh, I hate mixed emotions!
 

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Mister Benoit said:
One thing that I didn't like about this game is that the world doesn't seem organic. Like this could never exist.

The platforms look like platforms and the nonsensical stuff that shoots out the white/black dots don't blend at all.

Take any Mario or the new Donkey Kong Country Returns. The levels look organic or they at least try to make it blend.

I know this is a budget title but w/e, thought it'd be worth a mention. Still a great little game but it looks as abstract as N+ does for me.
Very true, though I felt like it wasn't supposed to be organic. To me it felt like a book, or a cave drawing, or a tapestry that was written/drawn/woven for future generations to learn about, not that there's any precedent for that, it just reminds me of old greek pottery figures.
 

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DanDeFool said:
Dammit.

Screw Halo Reach and Modern Warfare 2. I want an X360 just so I can play stuff like this!

Fuck, why do all the good indie and old-school games never get to Steam?

What? Way more people own X360s than PCs? Well... I guess that explains it then.
More people of consoles than on PC? Hmm....I bet that statistic is waaaaaayy off for the kind of audience this type of game could be grabbing given the HUGE casual crowd that already has a computer but has never thought of buying a console.
 

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I'm not sure how the controls would work for PC though...obviously there are enough buttons, but...it just wouldn't be as comfortable.

Either way, I'm just sad it wasn't on PSP. Would have been perfect for it. Also, it was awesome! Loved the boss fights and everything, though it made me feel stupid for the number of times I died just from not planning ahead.
 

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I remember being excited about this when I first saw the previews for it a while ago. Definitely going to be picking this one up now that it's out! And just enough time to beat it before The Witcher 2 releases...
 

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Sober Thal said:
Side question, in the video review you mention 'it's hard, but fair'. I think I know what you mean, but does anyone know of a hard game that isn't fair?? I couldn't think of one.
Memories of the Silver Surfer game on the NES haunt me to this very day. Ever wondered where the term 'Nintendo hard' originated from? It's games like this.

OT: That looks like a lot of fun, I'll be sure to try the demo when I have the time.
Damn your contagious enthusiasm, Susan - it will be the death of my wallet one day.
 

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Kinda reminds of the Castlevania games, lol this game is more Castlevania than Lords of shadow.
 

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I'm convinced. Downloading now.

After playing Super Street Fighter IV for a while, I need something else to get infuriated with besides losing matches.

And yes, it definitely looks gorgeous.
 

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shiajun said:
DanDeFool said:
Dammit.

Screw Halo Reach and Modern Warfare 2. I want an X360 just so I can play stuff like this!

Fuck, why do all the good indie and old-school games never get to Steam?

What? Way more people own X360s than PCs? Well... I guess that explains it then.
More people of consoles than on PC? Hmm....I bet that statistic is waaaaaayy off for the kind of audience this type of game could be grabbing given the HUGE casual crowd that already has a computer but has never thought of buying a console.
Something tells me that an old school tough as nails platformer mixed with a touch of tough as nails bullet hell shooter isn't exactly the sort of game that will have an appeal at all to the casual gaming market, never mind PC or console.

Personally, while I would have no issue at all with the game being on the PC, I think it's pretty fair to say that this game does belong on the consoles. They have pretty much always been the home of the platformer and have become the home of the bullet hell shooter as well since the arcade scene kicked the bucket in most of the world.
 

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I think this game can actually be really unfair at times, I've lost count of the times I've been hit by an enemy because I had to take a leap of faith and he happened to be off-screen, or got hit by something I could barely see because of the quirky art style (which is beautiful, but still, it gets in the way sometimes).

Good game though, pretty challenging and excellent value for money, it's quite long. Very like Super Metroid in some ways - a fair amount of backtracking, having to defeat several bosses before you can take on the big bad at the end etc.
 

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I dunno, Bloom County is a tough act to follow. Do I at least get to play as Steve Dallas? Looks pretty cool, but of course I'll have to wait for PSN to get its act together.
 

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The problem I have with Outland is that the aesthetics make it very difficult to determine what is and what isn't a hazard, and where the guy is.

Once, I stepped on a switch and the momentum kept me going, and the camera went to show what the switch did. Then, it panned back and I couldn't find my guy and promptly died from hazards.
 

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...And this is exactly the reason that I cannot wait for the PSN to return. Other than the fact that I will go broke stupidly fast.
 

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S1leNt RIP said:
I'm not sure how the controls would work for PC though...obviously there are enough buttons, but...it just wouldn't be as comfortable.

Either way, I'm just sad it wasn't on PSP. Would have been perfect for it. Also, it was awesome! Loved the boss fights and everything, though it made me feel stupid for the number of times I died just from not planning ahead.
I'm also primarily a PC gamer. What I use is a 360 controller for windows. A bit pricier than the console one, but works well for me and seems to have some good support for it. Otherwise there are tons of budget usb controllers. Shop around.

OT: Susan, I'm learning to trust your tastes. This is now on my list :)
 

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StriderShinryu said:
shiajun said:
DanDeFool said:
Dammit.

Screw Halo Reach and Modern Warfare 2. I want an X360 just so I can play stuff like this!

Fuck, why do all the good indie and old-school games never get to Steam?

What? Way more people own X360s than PCs? Well... I guess that explains it then.
More people of consoles than on PC? Hmm....I bet that statistic is waaaaaayy off for the kind of audience this type of game could be grabbing given the HUGE casual crowd that already has a computer but has never thought of buying a console.
Something tells me that an old school tough as nails platformer mixed with a touch of tough as nails bullet hell shooter isn't exactly the sort of game that will have an appeal at all to the casual gaming market, never mind PC or console.

Personally, while I would have no issue at all with the game being on the PC, I think it's pretty fair to say that this game does belong on the consoles. They have pretty much always been the home of the platformer and have become the home of the bullet hell shooter as well since the arcade scene kicked the bucket in most of the world.
True, that, but the unwary buyer might not know this game comes from that school of unforgiving platformers. I was sort of thinking not of the droning Farmville addicts but the masochists that become hooked on Peggle, Bejeweled, countless reflex scoring games, the aformentioned Plants vs. Zombies, etc, for which a community like Steam's is just ripe for the picking.
 

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Just a small snag, a thing I'd love to be brought up here.

Can we have more PC indie game reviews? I know it's not a lot, maybe just a small thing, but I'm not getting an Xbox or PSN any time soon. Just a little help in this area because we love gaming too.

OT: Damn is that ever gorgeous. If I could get a game on the Xbox, this would be one.
 

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So no creepy kids? No corn fields? Then what is this title about?

Outlander! We have your woman! She still lives Outlander!
 

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Wow, I'd seen a small discussion and some screen shots, but this is the first time I've seen it in motion. I'll definitely pick this one up!
 

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It's like N+ and Ikaruga had a baby in South America. That alone is pretty damn epic right there. Seeing as how I own BOTH of those games, which are the ONLY games on my 360... DO WANT.
 

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Wow, those graphics are gorgeous. Sadly, I just know that this is a game I would only grow frustrated with if I tried to play it. I guess I can at least try the demo, and continue to admire video footage of it.
 

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This game is incredible, go buy it Salad demands. You won't be disappointed; it's like Prince of Persia 2: Shadow and the Flame, Ikaruga and Tron had a crazy drunken encounter one night and against their better judgement kept the baby...and we're all the luckier for that decision.
 

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Check points. Learn 'em!

Yeah, fuckin' Megaman drops a check point before a tough ass boss fight. This game does not. It's game design two decades in the making.
 

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This game does look really nice. I have a huge backlog at the moment though, so I'll wait until it's at a good sale price.
 

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Why are these interesting-looking platformers so often limited to XBox or Playstation? We'll probably have to wait quite a while before it's released for PC, if ever. :-(

S1leNt RIP said:
I'm not sure how the controls would work for PC though...obviously there are enough buttons, but...it just wouldn't be as comfortable.
Eh, even if you think the keyboard wouldn't be well-suited for it, you could always just use a game controller for your PC as well.
 

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Check out this student game by Digipen, also has the ikaruga mechanic.
Looks like a fast paced shooter though, has like co-op and single player and some cheesy voice acting
http://youtu.be/QZCv6m-lKoI
 

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When I saw the title, I was honestly thinking about this movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehIG9shZs4A

I don't know about you guys, but I'm thinking copywrite infringement here (for the title, anyways.)

Btw, I absolutely love this movie, partly due to the fact that it has Sean Connery in it.
 

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heyheysg said:
Check out this student game by Digipen, also has the ikaruga mechanic.
Looks like a fast paced shooter though, has like co-op and single player and some cheesy voice acting
http://youtu.be/QZCv6m-lKoI
How did you find that video, where'd you hear about it?
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Outland Review

It's evil. It's brilliant. It's hard not to love.

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It looks neat, but does it really need an HDTV, cause it almost looks like it does. I do not have one...yet.
 

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S1leNt RIP said:
I'm not sure how the controls would work for PC though...obviously there are enough buttons, but...it just wouldn't be as comfortable.
Movement - W,A,S,D
Jump - Space
Attack - Left Mouse
Color Change - Right Mouse

I think that would work perfectly fine and be just as comfortable to a PC gamer as a controller is for someone who plays mostly on consoles.
 

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Slycne said:
S1leNt RIP said:
I'm not sure how the controls would work for PC though...obviously there are enough buttons, but...it just wouldn't be as comfortable.
Movement - W,A,S,D
Jump - Space
Attack - Left Mouse
Color Change - Right Mouse

I think that would work perfectly fine and be just as comfortable to a PC gamer as a controller is for someone who plays mostly on consoles.
Makes sense I guess, but there are more attacks and special abilities. You know, that's the reason I didn't play Mass Effect on the PC...I just could not get down on the controls or comfort of playing...now I'll sit in front of League of Legends for 8 hours at a time (on my most hedonistic days), but for some reason I feel way more comfortable with a controller in my hand.

Different strokes!
 

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Zhukov said:
Heh. What you describe in the video is exactly what happened to me.

"Ohhh, Steam sale: Lara Croft: GTOL."

"Hey, didn't that one Escapist reviewer say it was really good? Guess I'll give it a shot then."

"Holy crap! This game is fun as hell!"

Thanks for that by the way.

...

As for Outland, I was willing to buy it after seeing one screenshot. Sadly I lack the necessary consoles. Ah well.
It's the same for me and her Splosion Man review. I want that game but it just won't get ported for PC. *cry*
 

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"a bit of a revival"?
The past 4 years are more like half of a revival (considering that most games on the NES were 2D platformers). To be honest, I've had my fill of them, and this doesn't really lure me.
 

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Sober Thal said:
Great review. I have the demo, will be buying it soon.

Side question, in the video review you mention 'it's hard, but fair'. I think I know what you mean, but does anyone know of a hard game that isn't fair?? I couldn't think of one.
So, so, SO many of Sierra's early games. Look on TV Tropes for "Have a Nice Death", the two page quotes at the time of writing are both games from Sierra. Heck, same site, only search "Unwinnable by Design". Sierra has their own section...

**EDIT**

Add me to the list of folks who would like to see Outland released on PC.
 

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Currently playing this and Loving it, it can be crushingly difficult at times but well worth the payoff
 

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ok, ubisoft has just released outland on psn. so they have NO EXCUSE that they havent released beyond good and evil hd also.

i'm seriously thinking they cancelled it and are too cowardly to admit it