^ And this is why the idea that it could have been a male character barely lasted a nano second before i dismissed it entirely. Everyone loves lesbians it seems. Ffs, my current queen in crusader kings 2 is a lustful lesbian and EVERYONE friggin loves her, i never had a monarch so beloved, she didn't even have a single vassal with negative opinion when she took power, everyone instantly liked her, that lesbian buff is OP.Nurb said:I knew it'd be lesbians. Cute lesbians are still the "safe" gays to depict in media to keep the complaining to a minimum since they're more accepted than, say, Junkrat smooching on Genji.
you haven't seen nothing yet boss, there are much sicker shit out there. And even the most depraved and insidious stuff on the internet is honestly is a lot better then real life in a lot of ways.BiH-Kira said:I'm pretty sick of some of the comments on the internet.
Then allow me to summarize because while I'm empathetic to both i have far more agreement with those you take umbrage with.Especially those "hurr I have nothing against gay people but I hate how they push it down our throat" kind of comments.
I've seen quite a number of articles on the subject myself floating around in the aether.No one is pushing anything down your throat.
It starts that way Ayi, they're worried about giving a mouse a cookie. Call it aSlippery slope if you want, you wouldn't be wrong.It's a few panes and that's it.
What?Also a gorillion of strawmen and Trump posting.
...in their defense, I think if they did Junkrat x Genji then they'd receive a lot of flak for not shipping Junkrat and Roadhog/Genji and his brother.Nurb said:I knew it'd be lesbians. Cute lesbians are still the "safe" gays to depict in media to keep the complaining to a minimum since they're more accepted than, say, Junkrat smooching on Genji.
Though now Tracer, the face of the game, loves boobs as much as the players, and I think that's fantastic.
Apparently so long as she's near it, it'll continue to keep her stable.cleric of the order said:Tracer existing as a stable entity without her harness
Seriously that took a lot of hte impact of the character away.
She's stuck in between time and not, forced to be anchored to that damn temporal pacemaker and just boom, doesn't matter.
There aren't timbits of her adjusting to what her life would be like being forced to wear it, she can just take it off when she wants to because well it's easier.
Image trying to live with a harness around you at all times.
See i figured Winston originally came up with a large bulky unit which would be hard to friggin move but could shield her for a period in that area.
I'm belaboring the point, but this strikes me as blizzard being a shit bunch of writers. And they are generally, so why am i supprised
Oh please. The people talking about how lesbians are safe in this thread aren't the people who were complaining about a lack of representation.LysanderNemoinis said:Blizzard doesn't have a gay character - people complain. They then toss a bone to the alphabet brigade - people complain it's not enough. I'm just wondering now if we can retroactively go after the person who complained about Tracer's ass as being homophobic? I mean, as we all know, any criticism of anyone or anything is hate speech unless they're a straight, white male.
That's common knowledge. It's never been about improving the world - its only ever been about controlling other people through guilt, self-imposed victim status, and whining to authority figures to destroy the people they don't like on their behalf.Karadalis said:One can never please SJW. They will ALLWAYS find some way to ***** about things.
The TPP was thrown into a fire the week of Trump winning the election.cleric of the order said:What?BiH-Kira said:Also a gorillion of strawmen and Trump posting.
also i am eternally glad that i took a leave of absence during the election cycle, my country devoted hours to explaining why trump is so evil and my uni flew fliers like stop trump
If it's so salt provoking that it slipped over the boarder i don't want to know the level of shit that happened in here.
I just hope the TPP falls through.
How much of a Mary Sue is this character? I mean, she has a sycophant whose purpose is to tell her how right she is and how wrong everyone else is, her enemy(?) is one-dimentional and is spewing "censored stuff that author probably deems bad and it is bad because author says so" AND she is a disinterested REDHEAD with FACIAL TATOOS. I don't know about you, but to me it screams Mary Sue.cleric of the order said:Then allow me to summarize because while I'm empathetic to both i have far more agreement with those you take umbrage with.
before i go on i should say, i do not and have not in the rest of my argument indicated that tracer or overwatch has displayed these symptoms this is a general statement for the sake bridging the gape. In short, what you see people diagnosing as "being pushed down your throat" is an act of politics overtaking world building. Generally speaking the worst offenders are very clear, doubtless no one would argue that say captain planet was an unambiguous example of this sort of deal and a hamfisted one at that. It's far more glaring to things that ought to be largely apolitical, I suppose that's why i've heard people repine over a certain character in daredevil's soap-boxing. People pushing captain America to become homosexual, the gender swaps for well known characters and the injections of Islam into a couple characters. It's one of the major reasons i don't read comics.
case in point
One can caulk this up to bad writing, and it is but it's not uncommon for comics as of late.
one can also caulk this up to the termites dining long and hard, and it is, I wouldn't be surprised if comics didn't horseshoe into hating the jews because Israel exists which would be deeply concerning (I should stress I know people who do, I am not very fond of that line of thought no matter how one feels about Israel nor is this an endorsement or denouncement of the nation-state in question).
Point is people are afraid of this.
My main complaint is that Blizzard seemed to hype the idea, I mean, if Tracer had gone home to her wife/girlfriend and kissed by the fire, nobody would have batted an eye, but instead we needed an announcement promising that Blizzard would Out a character of theirs, turning it into a goddamn circus. It seems to me that the logical first step in equality between LGBT-and-whatever-else-letters would be treating it like nothing special, but instead were making it seem all important.RedDeadFred said:Jesus fuck, how are people complaining about this? If Tracer had gone home to a husband and kissed by the fire, nobody would have batted an eye. But because she's with another women, it's immediately an agenda. For fucks sake, grow up. If you were talking to a woman in real life and she said something along the lines of "my girlfriend really liked the gift I bought her", would you tell her to stop shoving her agenda down your throat? This is pathetic. It's funny because you often see these same kinds of complainers bitching about safe spaces too when in reality, it seems they require the safest space of all.
I really don't buy that people are annoyed about this because they think it'll somehow impact the integrity of the story (it's OVERWATCH). If this comic actually bugged you because it showed that Tracer is a lesbian, I strongly suggest you rethink your priorities in life.