Patent Troll Ready to Sue World of Warcraft, Second Life

Mcupobob

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drop2zero said:
Why would he wait this long to start suing? 3D MMOs have been around for a long time now.
To wait for the idea to become lucrutive without having do any real work. Easiest scam ever, patent a vauge idea, wait for someone to have a product loosly based on the idea. Then wait for it.... SUE THE PANTS OFF THEM, walk away with money.


OT:Hope they don't get a dime.

EDIT: I also see this turing out like the Dawn of the dead vs Dead Rising case. The jugde stating "The idea of people locking themselfs in a mall during a zombie attack is to vauge(not the righ word but can't think of anyother word to use) to patent.
 

seventy7l

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No don't sue NCsoft they are making Guild Wars 2 noooooooow.
The claims this guy is making is ludicrous,I mean how do people get away with that kind of stuff i hope NCsoft wins so they don't even think about touching Blizzard.
 

zehydra

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I. HATE. PATENTS.

Suing somebody else because SOMEBODY else implemented a version of your very vague idea (which it may not have been actually based off of) for money is theft.
 

zehydra

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Nunka said:
Am I the only person who thinks this could be a positive thing if, by some strange act of god, he succeeds?

Think about it. Guy's demanding licensing fees from MMO creators. Wouldn't that effectively result in fewer awful MMOs being made due to small-time companies not wanting to cough up the cash? The bigwigs won't feel a thing from this, and they can carry on making their hugely profitable MMOs.

I really don't see the downside. Sure, one worthless little ass becomes mightily rich, but that happens every day.
Small =/= awful. I know some amazing mmo's that nobody's ever heard of.
 

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Zac_Dai said:
This is why I feel the whole concept of intellectual property rights needs to be overhauled.
Agree 100%. I am tried of these "hidden" patents. That someone comes after for millions.
 

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Wow. Seeing how it effects almost every MMO to date, no one kept up with this lawsuit?

Worlds.com settled the suit (aka they dropped it) because, ... they couldn't keep up the with the cost of litigation.

Honestly, if they really had a case of being wronged and were not just trying to get into the deep pockets of Blizzard - hence why they started off with NCsoft, then they would have filled this a long time ago.

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On a side note: please don't necro a thread if you cannot be bothered to take the less than 1 minute to Google this.
 

Mcupobob

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Nunka said:
Am I the only person who thinks this could be a positive thing if, by some strange act of god, he succeeds?

Think about it. Guy's demanding licensing fees from MMO creators. Wouldn't that effectively result in fewer awful MMOs being made due to small-time companies not wanting to cough up the cash? The bigwigs won't feel a thing from this, and they can carry on making their hugely profitable MMOs.

I really don't see the downside. Sure, one worthless little ass becomes mightily rich, but that happens every day.
Besides all the bigwigs laying off employs and closing servers to make up for any loss. Yeah sure no downside what so ever. Not to mention the ecomomic backlash, but still its all good.
 

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Zac_Dai said:
This is why I feel the whole concept of intellectual property rights needs to be overhauled.
Intellectual Property Rights and Copyright laws have been flawed for decades now (I can't speak further because I haven't been alive much further than that).

We are dealing with infinitely replicable resources and treating them as rarer than finitely replicable resources. The punishments are far harsher almost always.

Plus you have to deal with the problem of assuming that it is impossible for a second person to invent something after the first person did. If it is truly impossible then how did the first person come to the conclusion?

I mean sure, if two people had the Mona Lisa, you could argue that it is unlikely that both of them painted the exact same thing and that one is copying. But that is rarely the kind of extreme situation we are dealing with.

"Virtual Open Words?" "Remote Controls" These things are vague and, like the telescope, end up popping up in multiple places around the same time.

Why?

Because we all have the same damn biology and world to live on. Sure there are biomes differences that result in us crafting different tools for the same basic desired end (IE eating) but the overall path is the same.

Human history doesn't repeat itself because we are stubborn, it repeats itself because evolution and the environment don't change nearly fast enough or dramatic enough to warrant changes in our actions or thoughts.

This isn't a blanket truth, various things have evolved on the intellectual level because of advances in technology (and thus psuedo changes in the size of the Earth via aircrafts and automobiles), but our individual inventions are very likely to not be utterly unique on the planet.

I'm sure for every guy who discovered electricity there was another guy who discovered electricity (oh right there was), for every guy who discovers the telescope, the television, likely thousands of food dishes, and probably just about everything else.

This company acting like it "breathed into life an idea that never before lived." is, for a lack of a better word at the moment, retarded.

If you can think it up, somebody else probably already has, whether or not they put that knowledge into action doesn't matter since the argument isn't that "We are protecting the rights of folks to keep making shit cause they started making it first." The argument is "I thought this up, you stole my idea, period."
 

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I highly doubt he has a case. For one, I'm fairly certain that if a patent is infringed upon and you leave it a certain amount of time, you lose the ability to sue because it clearly wasn't bothering you. Not to mention there were basic MMO's before this website went up.

He won't win in court. I doubt he can afford to go to court for too long anyway. He'll just try and scare companies into settling which I hope they don't. I hope he goes for Blizzard and they flew a bit of muscle. It's an obvious marketing ploy, he shouldn't be shown mercy.
 

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Im not really sure how I feel on this...
The patent seems vague.

I really hope he doesn't get away with it.
 

Blackjack 222

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I would LOVE! to see him try to fight Blizzards Legions of undead ninja Lawyers(who have part time jobs as lumberjacks to pay for more Ninja training), I would LOVE to see that. Blizz is got to have an army of the best lawyers in the world ready to drive back any threat. People who abuse patent laws like that deserve no mercy, deserve no death, and should have a different part of their body lit on fire while its beaten with a club every day.
 

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DeadlyYellow said:
A little fact checking: patent was filed on November 12, 1996, a little late for 95.

The patent in question. [http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,219,045.PN.&OS=PN/6,219,045&RS=PN/6,219,045]
Read this thing. Most of it is just explanation of stuff that other people already invented. Then there's a laundry list of things an MMO ought to have. There's no innovation here, nothing is invented. It's just wishful thinking about stuff that should exist.

In fact, most of it already existed. The whole long section on packets merely described client/server interactions that had been going on in MUDs and any other networking for many years before. Heck, I've written applications that use these methods. And this was the only part where the patent went into any technical detail.

I have no clue how this was passed; it's clearly a bad patent.
 

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In other news, Atari is sueing Sony, Microsoft, Sega and Nintendo for stealing the idea of a console.

Oh wait, no they're not cause they're not clinically retarded.

How does he even have a case? This would be the same as the guy who invented the LCD tv sueing every TV mancufacturer.

Idiot, idiot man.
 

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"Being a foreign defendant in Texas is not a pleasant thing," a lawyer familiar with the NCsoft case said. "The juries are, many would say, biased towards American plaintiffs and have a propensity to offer high damages. Some defendants might view them as an unfriendly jury and it might make the defendant more likely to settle."

This lawyer's a twit. He probably works with the Worlds.com lawsuit cabal and is trying to indirectly apply pressure on NCSoft to settle. If anything, most of my fellow Texans hate lawyers and stupid lawsuits. Like this one.
 
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DeadlyYellow said:
A little fact checking: patent was filed on November 12, 1996, a little late for 95.

The patent in question. [http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,219,045.PN.&OS=PN/6,219,045&RS=PN/6,219,045]
This is effectively every multiplayer game EVER.
I mean EVER.
Just hte cursory glance tells me that he just tried to patent something akin to common sense.