PAX East 2010: A Girl and a Shirt

Susan Arendt

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PAX East 2010: A Girl and a Shirt

To see that the landscape of gaming is changing, you need look no further than Red Dead Redemption [http://www.amazon.com/Red-Dead-Redemption-Xbox-360/dp/B001SH7YMG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1278952923&sr=1-1]'s swag.

Peek into the closets and bureaus of most game journalists and you'll find the same thing: game t-shirts. Lots and lots of game t-shirts. Despite what you might think, it's not because we love games as much as we love free clothes - though both of those are true. No, it's just because more often than not, after you've finished trying a game demo at a show or convention, a cheerful PR person pushes a t-shirt emblazoned with the game's logo into your hands. Sometimes it's a large, sometimes it's an extra large, but it is always, always a man's shirt.

Not that this is some kind of huge conspiracy, or anything. Not only does the industry skew heavily male, but while a girl can wear a man's shirt, a man can't wear a girl's because of the cut. So if you're only going to have one, it makes sense for it to be for a dude. I get it. But it's still always a little disappointing.

Imagine, then, my surprise and delight when the lovely Rockstar PR girl asked what size ladies shirt I would like. There, at her feet, was a box of girl's shirts, right alongside the expected box of boy's.

This may not seem like a big deal, and in many ways, it isn't. Rockstar put in an order for female shirts along with male shirts. Done. But it's also a big deal, because it's quiet acknowledgement, finally, that a significant part of the videogame audience is female. Females who are proud enough of being gamers to want to cover their chests and backs with game titles and developer names - and proud enough of being female to want to look like a girl while doing it.

PAX East was a consumer show, of course, so the ratio of male to female was slightly different than it would be at a straight up trade event, but GDC had ladies shirts available, too. It seems like every other day, someone is asking how we can get more girls interested in the industry. Sometimes, it's as easy as giving them a shirt that fits.







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Swaki

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hehe, grats Susan on the new shirt, and grats PAX east goers for seeing nerdy girls and women in something other than mens cloth.
 

SeanTheSheep

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Good for you, and it is a good way of appealing to different demographics more, but having the wrong size or gender free shirt is one of the strangest and most unjust gripes for someone to have.
You don't look like you're complaining, but I'm sure there are people who do, considering you're fairly mild-mannered Ms. Arendt[footnote]Or Mrs. Arendt, I don't really know too much about your personal life.
*Hides camera*[/footnote] so there are probably people who do have issues with it, and frankly, it's amazing that there are (probable) people are that selfish that they would complain.
/Rant about possible types of people

But I digress: It's nice that developers are looking at female gamers more, and I hope this keeps going.
 

opportunemoment

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Susan Arendt said:
It seems like every other day, someone is asking how we can get more girls interested in the industry. Sometimes, it's as easy as giving them a shirt that fits.
Too right! This really made me squee. Like you say, possibly it's a bigger squee than is warrented by the t-shirts, but then again, possibly it's not. :D
 

Rainboq

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Let me say this, Its about damn time! Seriously, why haven't they already started doing this, about, I don't know... ummm, 4 or so years ago?
 

SeanTheSheep

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Rainboq said:
Let me say this, Its about damn time! Seriously, why haven't they already started doing this, about, I don't know... ummm, 4 or so years ago?
Why only four years ago?
Why not earlier?
 

rembrandtqeinstein

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I don't think we are in the 50's anymore but there is still some vestige left at the edges of culture. Girls who are into "guy" stuff like cars, sports, video games, guns, etc are considered super awesome and desirable. While guys who are into "girl" stuff are considered to be weird.

Then again is there really any "girl" stuff anymore? I mean other than shopping for shoes. Completely heterosexual guys are into cooking, sewing, decorating, gardening, etc.
 

Rainboq

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SeanTheSheep said:
Rainboq said:
Let me say this, Its about damn time! Seriously, why haven't they already started doing this, about, I don't know... ummm, 4 or so years ago?
Why only four years ago?
Why not earlier?
I don't know, just a random number!
 

machineiv

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In promotion for my new game, I'm considering doing ladies' shirts. However, they're almost twice the price of male shirts. I'm not entirely sure why that is, but it's a bit of a deterrent.
 

Jared

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Nice on Susan! Hehe, Its nice to see woman getting some recognition in the PR clothing department of the gaming world!

Its good to know that the market is progessing~
 

opportunemoment

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SeanTheSheep said:
Good for you, and it is a good way of appealing to different demographics more, but having the wrong size or gender free shirt is one of the strangest and most unjust gripes for someone to have.
You don't look like you're complaining, but I'm sure there are people who do, considering you're fairly mild-mannered Ms. Arendt[footnote]Or Mrs. Arendt, I don't really know too much about your personal life.
*Hides camera*[/footnote] so there are probably people who do have issues with it, and frankly, it's amazing that there are (probable) people are that selfish that they would complain.
/Rant about possible types of people

But I digress: It's nice that developers are looking at female gamers more, and I hope this keeps going.
It seems to me that griping about free stuff is not on, but making (helpful, grateful, polite) suggestions about how to make awesome stuff more awesome for everyone is just good sense.

I kind of wonder now you've brought it up whether this was suggested to them or their own initiative. Both ideas make me pretty much equally happy though! Way to give yourselves +1 to PR, Rockstar. :)
 

SaintWaldo

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LADIES! LADIES! LADIES! RED DEAD REDEMPTION IS IN THE HIZZOUSE!!

Always enjoy seeing marketing get that the audience is more than boys, and show they also know that the non-boys like shirts to f-ing FIT.
 

Formica Archonis

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Sweet. Here's hoping that this is the first step. Step 2: Booth babes. I mean, c'mon, either make it an equal-opportunity meat show or try selling your game using the game itself and not some irrelevant rented flesh.
 

AntiAntagonist

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PAX is open to the public. I wonder if Rockstar and other developers will continue trying this at industry-only events.
 

Miral

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I don't know what they have at conventions, but invariably the shirts that sometimes come with retail games collectors editions or preorder bonuses are too small for me... :(
 

Anarien

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I just have to say that this is AWESOME. And yes, that capitalization is deserved. Like you said, the shirts at these events are always men's/unisex cut and always too big. Way too big. It's really encouraging to hear this, and I hope other companies take note and follow suit.

Thanks for posting about this, Susan. Some might've considered it a small detail, but it really does mean something.