Persona Developer's Parent Company Files For Bankruptcy
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I'm fairly sure Atlus in Japan operates a lot differently than in America. After all, they're by and far, one of the biggest developers in that country with a massive fanbase behind them. I'm pretty sure, that whoever does buy them in the end will be more than content to just sit back and have them make them money.
Good analogy!Mcoffey said:
But yeah Catherine isn't really reflective of Atlus's normal Body of Work, specifically Catherine was an attempt by the Persona/SMT Guys to do something very different.
Okay, fair enough. I...wait, hold on a second...
1) I like movies.
2) I hear a new movie by Flufflebutt Honeypore is coming out, possibly his Honeypore'ist yet.
3) I've never seen a movie by this director but everyone who has ever seen any of its movies anywhere says they're fantastic. OVERWHELMING WORD OF MOUTH AND FEEDBACK WORLDWIDE CORROBORATES THIS POINT.
4) To be honest, I didn't catch the movie when it first came out...truth to be told I didn't catch it until about two years later on Cinemax.
5) It didn't live up to my expectations, in fact, it was much more different than I was used to. Not at all like the other movies I'd ever seen; I didn't like it.
6) End result: I have decided that the only reasonable response to this scenario I find myself in is to not only hate the newly knighted Sir F. Honeypore, but every other one of his creations despite never having watched them, and to actively cheer the financial troubles of the studio that helps to fund his projects.
Yeah, that seems reasonable. Carry on, then.
J Tyran said:
Nah, you couldn't be that entitled. We'll let that go. Let's take another look at what's going on here.J Tyran said:
1) I like movies.
2) I hear a new movie by Flufflebutt Honeypore is coming out, possibly his Honeypore'ist yet.
3) I've never seen a movie by this director but everyone who has ever seen any of its movies anywhere says they're fantastic. OVERWHELMING WORD OF MOUTH AND FEEDBACK WORLDWIDE CORROBORATES THIS POINT.
4) To be honest, I didn't catch the movie when it first came out...truth to be told I didn't catch it until about two years later on Cinemax.
5) It didn't live up to my expectations, in fact, it was much more different than I was used to. Not at all like the other movies I'd ever seen; I didn't like it.
6) End result: I have decided that the only reasonable response to this scenario I find myself in is to not only hate the newly knighted Sir F. Honeypore, but every other one of his creations despite never having watched them, and to actively cheer the financial troubles of the studio that helps to fund his projects.
Yeah, that seems reasonable. Carry on, then.
well hopefully Atlus gets bought by someone competent. Thing is a lot of the big Japanese game companies like CAPCOM, Square-Enix, Namco-Bandai, Sony, etc are very untrustworthy to let Atlus just be themselves. If anyone should get them (especially considering how friendly they've gotten lately) are Nintendo. Still, more than likely they won't be bought by a game company
Yeah I'm pretty sure they'll be fine. I'm actually surprised they had a parent company at all; this is something I didn't know about, and Atlus is one of my favorite publishers right now.Klonoa Prower said:
Which leads me to ask a question... if Atlus is doing really well even if Index isn't, could Atlus potentially buy their market share back from Index and go completely independent? Atlus seems to know what they're doing when it comes to marketing their games, and they're one of the more beloved mid-tier publishers out there. Atlus being free to do whatever the hell they want without having a parent company to worry about might be the best thing ever for them.
If you don't want to trust their games that's fine, but is that really a good reason? Persona 3 and 4 are probably some of my favorite games of all time, they don't seem to be you cup of tea so I won't push them on you but it'd be pretty sad if I was disappointed by one of their games and never tried them. Besides, I've enjoyed plenty of movies by directors that also made bad films. I saw the Village by M. Night Shammalalalam at a drive in and it was complete shit but later I saw Unbreakable by him and liked it. I also saw 2001: A Space Odyssey and thought was boring and confusing. That didn't stop me from later watching and enjoying the fuck out of The ShinningJ Tyran said:
Like I said, you don't have to like Atlus's games and can choose whatever reason that suits you but don't pretend your knee jerk reaction is somehow logical
As best I can tell, this appears to be a reorganization bankruptcy rather than a liquidation, so Atlus should be fine. They're releasing Dragon's Crown in Japan on schedule and intend to continue business as usual during the reorganization.
Even were it to become a liquidation, I've seen more than one site state that the gaming division is the company's most valuable asset and would be expected to easily be bought. Not worried!
Even were it to become a liquidation, I've seen more than one site state that the gaming division is the company's most valuable asset and would be expected to easily be bought. Not worried!
Yeah you got it for free so I don't think you have much room to complain, there are also plenty of reviews and people's opinions about it since it isn't a new release so some research probably would have helped, at a 10.1Gb download I would have checked exactly what I'm getting. Ok you didn't like, a lot of other people agree with you, but then there are other games by the same developer that A LOT of people say is a masterpiece. A studio won't have a masterpiece every time, especially when trying something new, sometimes they make a flop. It's not fair to judge the entire genre on 1 game and 1 developer.Salad Is Murder said:
A mistake I made prejudging something was the recent star trek movies. Didn't watch the 1st because I thought bah star trek. Watched the 2nd with mates and found it brilliant...I now need to watch that 1st movie since I so completely misjudged it based on my misconceptions and personal bias against the franchise.
OT: well hope Atlus comes out of this alright.
This is very interesting to consider and may be a good move for them if they can.Quiotu said:
This is..... I'm not sure what to feel about this but it's anything but reassuring.
Wouldn't it be "Funny" if Capcom actually did buy them out? Or they get forced into a "Partnership" Yeah that would be both hysterical and horribly sad.
Wouldn't it be "Funny" if Capcom actually did buy them out? Or they get forced into a "Partnership" Yeah that would be both hysterical and horribly sad.
At least according to NeoGAF, they know that Atlus had nothing to do with it and the investigators are trying to seperate it from the rest of the investigation
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=605566
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=605566
Doesn't every publisher and Hollywood movie studio completely fudge their numbers? I know that "Hollywood Accounting" is definitely a thing, James Earl Jones hasn't gotten paid royalties for being Vader because apparently Jedi hasn't turned a profit yet. Unfortunately (or fortunately, I guess), Atlus's company just got caught.
I do hope nothing affects them though, or at the very least they're able to retain their size. They along with a few small companies are keeping true JRPGS alive and experimenting constantly, being swallowed up by Square-Enix or something would be a disaster for the niche.
I do hope nothing affects them though, or at the very least they're able to retain their size. They along with a few small companies are keeping true JRPGS alive and experimenting constantly, being swallowed up by Square-Enix or something would be a disaster for the niche.
A sad event indeed...From my understanding, Atlus is not a separate entity from Index and as such won't be able to be properly sold,so it is possible that they will be sold in pieces thus marking the end of Atlus. But NeoGaf says that the parent company are trying to save them so maybe there is still hope left.We'll see..
I feel free to mock you for liking the kind of rubbish this developer makes, thank god there wont be any more of it.Tony2077 said:
Lets answer this step by step,Salad Is Murder said:
1- That was really just an example of some different circumstances and never inferred I paid for the game (good job too has it has no value). If you want to step around a direct implication of entitlement thats up to you
2- I checked a JRPG for the first time in years
3- Everybody tells me how great they are all the time, they never live up to the hype they get and often frankly do not deserve any recognition at all.
4- No answer needed, a game is a different medium and this game has undergone little or no change in content since release.
5- It lived up to my expectations, my very worst expectations. Actually, no thats not true, it went beyond them it was that bad. I thought people joked about how bad JRPGs can get I was in for a very rude awakening, I actually wonder what kind of deranged person would actually enjoy this game.
6- No I will never play one of their games again and it will be long years before I pluck up the courage to play another JRPG ever again, if ever. These games are obviously not worth either any money or download time. As for cheering? Never did that just a dispassionate remark that if their games are anything to go by little of value will be lost. Mr Flufflebutt Honeypore isnt getting knighted I am afraid he is out of business, this fact speaks volumes when judged in concert with the quality of their games.
