PETA Tries to Guilt Animals Out of Mafia Wars

Cody211282

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ThrobbingEgo said:
Cody211282 said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Zani said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Extremist is just a pejorative word for labeling someone you don't agree with. I thoroughly disagree with far-right Evangelical Christians, but their positions are no more "extreme" than my own or anyone else's. PeTA just has a set of criteria for what ought to be, and sticks to its guns.
Good point, but are you condoning some organisations like the Animal Liberation Front? Because PETA is.
Nope. I'm not saying anything about them. But calling them "extremists" isn't useful.
But it is true.
If you read two posts up from this conversation branch, you'd see that it's can't be a "true" statement. It's pejorative. All it tells you is that what they think ought to be is somehow removed from mainstream society, or whatever you identify yourself as. When America kept slaves, were the people who wanted to free them "extremists"? What about the American founding fathers who rebelled against the British rule? Of course they were. And that's why the term "extremist" is worthless for a discussion on whether or not PeTA is in the right.
I would say that anyone who agrees with the statement that people should be killed to free animals is on the extreme end of the spectrum(and yes I know they don't but they do say that that ALF is right for doing it, and they may possibly be funding them). And as the definition is
"Extremism is a term used to describe the actions or ideologies of individuals or groups outside the perceived political center of a society; or otherwise claimed to violate common moral standards"(Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism
and
"One who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics."(Dictionary on my desk)

So the dictionary agrees with me.
 

Mercsenary

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This is from the same people who are trying to get people not to eat fish as the fish are...


"sea-kittens"
 

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Cody211282 said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Cody211282 said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Zani said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Extremist is just a pejorative word for labeling someone you don't agree with. I thoroughly disagree with far-right Evangelical Christians, but their positions are no more "extreme" than my own or anyone else's. PeTA just has a set of criteria for what ought to be, and sticks to its guns.
Good point, but are you condoning some organisations like the Animal Liberation Front? Because PETA is.
Nope. I'm not saying anything about them. But calling them "extremists" isn't useful.
But it is true.
If you read two posts up from this conversation branch, you'd see that it's can't be a "true" statement. It's pejorative. All it tells you is that what they think ought to be is somehow removed from mainstream society, or whatever you identify yourself as. When America kept slaves, were the people who wanted to free them "extremists"? What about the American founding fathers who rebelled against the British rule? Of course they were. And that's why the term "extremist" is worthless for a discussion on whether or not PeTA is in the right.
I would say that anyone who agrees with the statement that people should be killed to free animals is on the extreme end of the spectrum(and yes I know they don't but they do say that that ALF is right for doing it, and they may possibly be funding them). And as the definition is
"Extremism is a term used to describe the actions or ideologies of individuals or groups outside the perceived political center of a society; or otherwise claimed to violate common moral standards"(Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism
and
"One who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics."(Dictionary on my desk)

So the dictionary agrees with me.
Actually, that's exactly what I identified. Notice "the norm" and "common moral standards." I'm almost embarrassed at your lack of reading comprehension skills.

Also, the Animal Liberation Front has killed no person. I don't know where you got that idea from, but it's purely fictional. They damage personal property to liberate animals, but that's it.
 

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Well, those internet entrepreneurs, you know they always crumble at the mention of beloved deceased pets...
 

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im pro animal rights but anti-peta. most people I know share the same believes. peta has direct ties to ALF which is basically a terrorist group and have endangered human lives in there bombings and fires to free the animals. Im sorry but no life of an animal is worth that of a human. Not only that but they dont even follow there own rules. for example they believe that having pets is slavery, but there leader has at least two dogs.
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
Cody211282 said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Cody211282 said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Zani said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Extremist is just a pejorative word for labeling someone you don't agree with. I thoroughly disagree with far-right Evangelical Christians, but their positions are no more "extreme" than my own or anyone else's. PeTA just has a set of criteria for what ought to be, and sticks to its guns.
Good point, but are you condoning some organisations like the Animal Liberation Front? Because PETA is.
Nope. I'm not saying anything about them. But calling them "extremists" isn't useful.
But it is true.
If you read two posts up from this conversation branch, you'd see that it's can't be a "true" statement. It's pejorative. All it tells you is that what they think ought to be is somehow removed from mainstream society, or whatever you identify yourself as. When America kept slaves, were the people who wanted to free them "extremists"? What about the American founding fathers who rebelled against the British rule? Of course they were. And that's why the term "extremist" is worthless for a discussion on whether or not PeTA is in the right.
I would say that anyone who agrees with the statement that people should be killed to free animals is on the extreme end of the spectrum(and yes I know they don't but they do say that that ALF is right for doing it, and they may possibly be funding them). And as the definition is
"Extremism is a term used to describe the actions or ideologies of individuals or groups outside the perceived political center of a society; or otherwise claimed to violate common moral standards"(Wikipedia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism
and
"One who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics."(Dictionary on my desk)

So the dictionary agrees with me.
Actually, that's exactly what I identified. Notice "the norm" and "common moral standards." I'm almost embarrassed at your lack of reading comprehension skills.

Also, the Animal Liberation Front has killed no person. I don't know where you got that idea from, but it's purely fictional. They damage personal property to liberate animals, but that's it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_Front (under the The emergence of a violent faction section)
I believe sending letter bombs is trying to kill someone, and the threats they do sorta drives the point hone, as for the firebombings I guarantee you if there had been people in the buildings they would have done it anyway.

And my reading comprehension is fine, as in they fit the definition so that's what they are, going around saying they fit exactly what I said they are then saying they aren't doesn't make to much sense.

Edit:Also just to show how bat shit crazy they are here is a nice quote from Ingrid Newkirk
President of PETA "Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we?d be against it."
- Vogue (September 1, 1989)
You can see this quote and a few others here http://joey-gruber.tripod.com/id2.html
 

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Holy shit!!

An letter from PETA that actually seems to have some semblance of logic to it?!?

I am absolutely floored.

I don't agree with them, but I am impressed that it's not the usual garbage that spews out of them.
 

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Awh you guys. Wasting valuable column space (note, not news space, pre-emptive strike FTW) on PETA when you could be posting about ROBOTS and UNICORNS and how they want to ATTACK us.

On topic. Silly PETA, the animals don't even exist. That borders on censorship if we can't have the idea in a GAME.
 

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skystryke said:
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Well, I will post what I always post whenever I see PETA:

Yet more lies from the most hypocritical, attention/money whoring organization shat into existence since Scientology.

For an organization that seems to obsessed with trying to correct how we live, they sure do enjoy euthanize many of the animals they "rescue."
Over 90% of the animals they 'rescue' are Euthanize. Hypocrites indeed.

Also, the leader of PETA has been quoted on how it is incredibly oppressive and bigoted of humans to breed with only other humans. Yes, you read that correctly.

Fucking joke man. Why give a good cause such a bad name.
Are you serious, he actually said that? I knew PETA was fucked up but who in their right mind would actually think that.
See here

http://www.abolitionistapproach.com/media/links/p3017/mutually-satisfying.pdf

EDIT - Prep eye-bleach
 

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It's a game PETA! Not a very good one granted but that's beside the point.

If you want to shake the stigma of being a bunch of hypocritical douchebags then go focus on more prominent issues instead of targeting a fucking FaceBook game.
 

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That's horrible! Zynga is actually forcing live animals to fight each other for profit and the player's amusement? This is horrible, horrible animal abuse, we should start an online petiti.... oh wait, nm, they're just adding a couple badly drawn jpegs of animals to a crappy online game. Big friggin deal.
 

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On the subject of PETA, this is all that you really need to say. Anybody who writes a last will and testament like this is insane, and therefore the organization they lord over is insane, period.
DIRECTIONS FOR THE DISPOSITION OF THE REMAINS OF INGRID NEWKIRK

As someone who has dedicated a part of my life to the alleviation of animal suffering in various parts of the world, it is my wish that upon my death, my body be used to further that same goal. It is with this purpose in mind that I make the following directions and designations relating to the disposition of my final remains. I make these directions and designations after thorough consideration and pursuant to my firm belief in the purposes for which they are made.

1. Upon my death, it is my wish that my body be used in a manner that draws attention to needless animal suffering and exploitation. To accomplish this, I direct that my body be donated to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), 501 Front Street, Norfolk, Virginia 23510, to be used in whatever manner it chooses in order to accomplish the specified purpose, with the hope that most of my body will be put to use in the United States, with parts also dispatched to awaken the public consciousness of governments and citizens in the United Kingdom, where I was born, in India, my beloved childhood home, and in Canada, Germany, and France.

2. While the final decision as to the use of my body remains with PETA, I make the following suggested directions:

a. That the ?meat? of my body, or a portion thereof, be used for a human barbecue, to remind the world that the meat of a corpse is all flesh, regardless of whether it comes from a human being or another animal, and that flesh foods are not needed;

b. That my skin, or a portion thereof, be removed and made into leather products, such as purses, to remind the world that human skin and the skin of other animals is the same and that neither is ?fabric? nor needed, and that some skin be tacked up outside the Indian Leather Fair each year to serve as a reminder of the government?s need to abate the suffering of Indian bullocks who, after a life of extreme and involuntary servitude, as I have seen firsthand, are exported all over the world in this form;

c. That in remembrance of the elephant-foot umbrella stands and tiger rugs I saw, as a child, offered for sale by merchants at Connaught Place in Delhi, my feet be removed and umbrella stands or other ornamentation be made from them, as a reminder of the depravity of killing innocent animals, such as elephants, in order that we might use their body parts for household items and decorations;

d. That one of my eyes be removed, mounted, and delivered to the administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency as a reminder that PETA will continue to be watching the agency until it stops poisoning and torturing animals in useless and cruel experiments; that the other is to be used as PETA sees fit;

e. That my pointing finger be delivered to Kenneth Feld, owner of Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus, or to a circus museum to stand as the ?Greatest Accusation on Earth? on behalf of the countless elephants, lions, tigers, bears, and other animals who have been kidnapped from their families and removed from their homelands in India, Thailand, Africa, and South America and deprived of all that is natural and pleasant to them, abused, and forced into involuntary servitude for the sake of cheap entertainment;

f. That my liver be vacuum-packed and shipped, in whole or in part, to France, to there be used in a public appeal to persuade shoppers not to support the vile practice of force-feeding geese and ducks for foie gras;

g. That one of my ears be removed, mounted, and sent to the Canadian Parliament to assist them in hearing, for the first time perhaps, the screams of the seals, bears, raccoons, foxes, and minks bludgeoned, trapped, and sometimes skinned alive for their pelts; that the other ear be removed, preserved, and displayed outside the Deonar abattoir in Mumbai to remind all who do business there that the screams of the cattle who are slaughtered within its walls are heard around the world;

h. That one of my thumbs be removed, mounted upwards on a plaque, and sent to the person or institution that, in the year of my death or thereabouts, PETA decides has done the most to promote alternatives to the use and abuse of animals in any area of their exploitation;

i. That one of my thumbs be mounted in a downward position and sent to the person or institution that, in the year of my death or thereabouts, has gone against the changing tide of societal opinion and frightened and hurt animals in some egregious manner;

j. That a little part of my heart be buried near the racetrack at Hockenheim, preferably near the Ferrari pits, where Michael Shumacher raced in and won the German Grand Prix;

k. That anything else be done with my body that PETA believes will serve to draw attention to and so abate the plight of exploited animals.

3. As a resident of Virginia, and pursuant to Virginia law, including
§ 54.1-2825 of the Virginia Code, I designate PETA as the ?person? who shall make arrangements for carrying out the directions contained in this document for the disposition of my remains upon my death. If, at any time, PETA is unable or unwilling to carry out these directions, I designate, in the alternative, Daniel Mathews as the individual who shall make arrangements for carrying out the directions contained in this document for the disposition of my remains upon my death. If Daniel Mathews is unable or unwilling to carry out these directions as required, I authorize either of the two listed ?persons? in this paragraph to designate a third party to make arrangements for carrying out the directions contained in this document for the disposition of my remains upon my death.

4. While I prefer that my directions be first executed in the United States, I also direct that parts of my body be transported to the United Kingdom, of which I also am a citizen, and to India, my beloved spiritual home, to be executed there. If my directions cannot be executed in any of these countries, I authorize the transport of my remains to any location where my disposition directions, in whole or in part, may be lawfully executed.

5. I authorize the person carrying out these directions to deviate from them in any manner he or she deems appropriate to further the purpose expressed herein. If any provision or provisions of this document shall be held to be invalid, illegal, unenforceable, or in conflict with the law of any jurisdiction, the validity, legality, and enforceability of the remaining provisions shall not in any way be affected or impaired thereby.

or get it straight from the source! http://www.peta.org/feat/newkirk/will.html
 

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Surely their time would be better spent campaigning for the ethical treatment of animals rather than the possible influence that a digitised representation of an animal may have.

These things are not happening in the real world yet animal cruelty is, PETA should focus on those areas otherwise they appear somewhat disingenuous towards their stated cause.
 

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PeTA joined my shitlist when they compared being a member of the Kennel Club to being a member of the KKK.

Ja no.

Fuck them.

Seriously.

For the non-believers of my tale.

 

Samus Aaron

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Oh, come on! How am I supposed to make fun of Zynga if the company is named after a dog that died?!