PETA Wants Michael Vick Dropped From Madden NFL Cover Vote

[Andy Chalk]

You know, guys, it's not a zero-sum game. It's perfectly fine to be against Vick's inclusion without being a PETA "supporter."

I also direct your attention to this:

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/even-michael-vick-a-little-uneasy-about-how-easily,19244/ [http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/even-michael-vick-a-little-uneasy-about-how-easily,19244/]

 

[Plucky]

I guess i can't blame them, i mean he did run some dogfighting arena or somthing, but what does attempting to remove him from the cover does anyway? its not like everyone whos a fan of Football looks at the news or anything, and even if the animal abuse was extremely severe wouldn't his team or somthing just drop him out or somthing? (seriously, i don't really know how these things works)


And besides, how many people buys the game based by what real person is on the box anyway? id probally be more concerned about my own integregity of what im selling my likeness to....i mean seriously, im sure they're not bothered by the fact that the value of a Madden game drops pretty quickly and into bargain bins, and chances are that they care more about the instant cash of allowing permissions to plaster the face on the box itself...


Though i can see PETA's side too, i guess they don't want someone who does animal cruelty to be a rolemodel to people who plays videogames, but to go out of their own agenda attempting to ruin the carreers of others?

indirectly, we're probally what caused whatever to animals anyway, PETA doesnt have a large enougth voices, adopt a cat or donate or somthing? D:


Think of the Pets. <3

 

[CD-R]

Also, it's a real fucking kicker that PETA hates Vick seeing that they themselves euthanised 1325 cats and dogs a few years ago. Dumbasses...

Some helpful reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_euthanasia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_cruelty

A difference between animal cruelty and animal euthanasia? Sure. But PETA, the People for Ethical Treatment of Animals KILLS animals. The organization that wants animals to have the same rights as people KILLS animals. Doesn't that make them mass murderers?

PETA does not want animals to have the same rights as humans, and the idea behind euthanasia is that it is better for the animals to die painlessly than continue to suffer or starve to death.
My main problem with the responses in this thread is the fact that people are honestly putting aside Vick's actions, actions they self-admittedly abhor, because PETA is the group complaining is exactly the sort of cliched "Hitler was a vegetarian" bullshit I thought everyone grew out of by the seventh grade. You could make the argument that his personal life should have no bearing on whether he shows up on the cover of a game, but I doubt anyone would be if it were bums instead of dogs he was dragging off the street and torturing.

I hope.

www.petakillsanimals.com


Actually PETA euthanized over 2000 animals last year. It's not the fact that PETA euthanized over 2000 animals last year that's the problem. It's the fact that they euthanized over 2000 animals last year and made no attempt whatsoever to find homes for them. Then there's the whole supporting domestic terrorists, collecting millions of dollars and not using it to help animals, being massive hypocrites etc.

Seriously if you really want to help animals support a local shelter or rescue. Don't give money to these assholes.

Also PETA said all of Micheal Vick's dogs should have been put down. All but a few had to be put down the rest were all adopted out (no thanks to them). So yeah fuck these assholes.

 

[squiggothhunter]

I guess im in a tiny minority but fuck yea vick. Awesome season, and the dog fighting just doesn't piss me off. I respect your moral standard of being sickened by it but I'm really just offended by his idiocy of doing it when he already had a multimillion dollar contract.

 

[llafnwod]

Actually PETA euthanized over 2000 animals last year. It's not the fact that PETA euthanized over 2000 animals last year that's the problem. It's the fact that they euthanized over 2000 animals last year and made no attempt whatsoever to find homes for them. Then there's the whole supporting domestic terrorists, collecting millions of dollars and not using it to help animals, being massive hypocrites etc.

Seriously if you really want to help animals support a local shelter or rescue. Don't give money to these assholes.

Also PETA said all of Micheal Vick's dogs should have been put down. All but a few had to be put down the rest were all adopted out (no thanks to them). So yeah fuck these assholes.

Sweet lord in heaven. I have NEVER said PETA is a worthy organization, nor defended, nor, indeed, donated to it. My ENTIRE point, stated outright in the very post you quoted and invoked in your very own, was that saying PETA is a bad organization is entirely irrelevant to the issue at hand: Michael Vick's appearance on a video game cover despite his involvement in a dogfighting ring. That's it. If you still feel the need to argue with me, please argue against something I actually said.

 

[mjc0961]

Well, of course I think PETA should go STFU. Like EA said, Vick did his time and the NFL is letting him play again. So why not having him on the box?

But then again, this is EA. Watch as Vick wins the vote, the backlash gets a little bigger, and then they still use Vick on the cover of the game but they put a different number on the uniform and write "OPPOSING FORCE" on his jersey so we can all see that it's totally not the Taliban- I mean Michael Vick anymore. And then PETA still doesn't support the game because it's still Vick, and everyone else loses respect for EA because they caved but didn't do enough to make caving worth it.

 

[Jaranja]

My word I would love nothing more then to drop this guy into a pack of hungry wolfs. What a piece of crap this guy is. I live in England so I havnt had much experience with PETA or their "ways" but even I heard about this scumbag. Pics online and everything. I really like American Football, it and Rugby are the only two sports I can watch without getting bored. This guy does not deserve to walk out onto the street let alone the sports pitch.

As for Vick. Fuck that guy. I mean seriously.

Fucking finally. Jesus Christ.

In-FUCKING-deed!!! (I actually dont like swearing but I felt this called for it, apologies)

Yeah, I agree with you lads. He's a ****.

Still, I don't think it matters if he's on the cover or not. He's a good player, I think, and that's what matters. Not anything else.

 

[pretentiousname01]

And here I though jail time was to "pay your debt to society".

Does this mean that peta isn't part of normal society?

Dumbasses.

 

[Cecilthedarkknight_234]

It's madden who really care's?? EA can come back when they actually do something new with the franchise or I am just sticking to madden 07

 

[Baldr]

If it had been the Humane Society or some real organization I might have give a damn, but PETA, who cares what they think.

 

[Andy Chalk]

I find it a little disturbing how so many of you seem to be forming your opinions around the fact that it's PETA who's being critical of the situation, and not the situation itself.

Yes, Vick went to jail, did his time, paid his debt, etc. Has he done anything at all, since getting out and resuming his extraordinarily lucrative career as though nothing had ever happened, to indicate that he's not still a despicable human being?

 

[ArmorArmadillo]

I find it a little disturbing how so many of you seem to be forming your opinions around the fact that it's PETA who's being critical of the situation, and not the situation itself.

Yes, Vick went to jail, did his time, paid his debt, etc. Has he done anything at all, since getting out and resuming his extraordinarily lucrative career as though nothing had ever happened, to indicate that he's not still a despicable human being?

It's not Madden professional charity workers, it's Madden professional Football. A game where people move a ball from point A to point B. Some of those people have drug problems. Some have been involved in criminal acts. Some have even abused people. What sets Vick apart is that he spent 5 years in jail lost tons of money and endorsement, and is still getting harangued because he participated in hurting animals. A sucky thing to do, maybe. But ultimately, this game is not about whether people are good people, it's about who can move the ball fastest.

 

[MellowFellow]

I find it a little disturbing how so many of you seem to be forming your opinions around the fact that it's PETA who's being critical of the situation, and not the situation itself.

Yes, Vick went to jail, did his time, paid his debt, etc. Has he done anything at all, since getting out and resuming his extraordinarily lucrative career as though nothing had ever happened, to indicate that he's not still a despicable human being?

Michael Vick has been working with the humane society on a program to end dog fighting. Here's a link, I think it is a year or two old, but I have heard people on ESPN say he has done speeches at high schools about stopping dog fighting and animal cruelty more recently.
http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/dogfighting/qa/vick_faq.html

OT: PETA has no say in this argument, being on the cover of Madden should have nothing to do with who you are as a person, it should only involve how you perform on the field. Just because Michael Vick did some horrible things, doesn't change the fact that he had a great season and should be rewarded for it by being put on the cover. Not only that, but people love redemption stories.

 

[smut]

An NFL player ran over and killed a HUMAN BEING while drunk driving.
An NFL player ran a brutal dog fighting ring and killed some dogs.

Guess which player served more jail time?

 

[SpaceCop]

"He's had a tremendous season" should never negate--you know--anything, and the very idea that it's an even remotely viable excuse is laughable.

That said, the man did his time, both literally and figuratively.

And, to reiterate what lots of folks are saying; PETA wants a lot of things. *SNARK*

 

[Forgetitnow344]

OK yeah, the dog fighting was bad. You can allow that to forever affect your view of him, or you can get past it like he did. He's not my favorite player or anything, but I'd really like to see a case where someone does something bad, goes to jail and fixes themselves, and then is allowed to move past it once they're back out.

Mark Wahlberg.

 

[Blazenwizard]

Christ will those damned animal humpers get a life already?! I love dogs and found his actions repulsive but in the greater scheme of things...they're just dogs, the man served his time and should be allowed to work in peace..besides In the game of Madden has, Vick has lead me to multiple victories against the Pats and the Steelers!!

 

[Trucken]

That is an argument, and it did come across in your previous posts. Again, my main problem was with saying "if PETA's against it, it must be fine" which is what was coming across in your (and many others') later posts. This is separate. I think the problem with this argument is that dog fighting isn't really the sort of thing you can be sorry for without a major change in character. It's not like he assaulted someone or said something he shouldn't have; a continuing crime like that shows a nature of violence, sadism, and a general contempt for life. The only reason he's "sorry" is that he was caught. That's the problem people have with putting him on the cover; regardless of how good a football player he is, for some given value of evil people shouldn't be celebrated or made role models.

If I somehow implied that I thought "if PETA's against it, it must be fine", I really screwed up. What I basically was trying to say was that I think PETA are just as bad as Michael Vick, even worse actually. Yes, Vick saying that he's sorry AFTER he got caught seems unsincere (spelling?), but at least he had the good common sense to do that. PETA continue to assault and harass people and NEVER apologises for the shit they do, they just hide behind "the ends justifies the means". "The ends justifies the means" is a cowards way of saying "I know it's wrong but I did it anyway and I don't wanna face the consequences".

However, that's not the point. The point is people should pay for their crimes. Vick did his time and as a part of his punishment he's donating a part of his salary to charity in order to prevent dogfighting. Most people should be able to be forgiven for their crimes. Of course there are people that don't deserve to be forgiven, like Joseph Fritzl, but I believe that Vick should be able to be forgiven.