Piracy Critic Admits to Huge Pirated Music Collection

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cerebus23 said:
Mackheath said:
Fucking hypocrisy. Makes me sick.

Do as I say, not as I do right enough.
Ditto, she should get in politics seems she is a born natural.
Oh gawd no... we have enough of them already. Seems to be the same for most european politicians I've heard/read of lately. Hypocrits and sellouts (except for a small minority).

Mrs. R. comes off as a real cheapskate, after having reading the original article in full. It's just a waste of space in what is otherwise an excellent financial newspaper.
 

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Oh this is freekin hilarious :D
"The stuff on my iPod is not representative of my relationship with the music industry and the products they produce" - now that is a line to remember... for court.

I just wonder how bat shit crazy RIAA could go on this, there was a woman who had 30 pirated songs and they sued her for 2.5mil(if I recall correctly), so by that standard this would rate in at a messily 150mil, and then we go back to the line:
"I have figured out that I've lost half a million kroner ($72,500) on piracy of my books, maybe more."

Oh such sweet irony
 

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I also think "designer" handbags are overpriced. Guess what I do? I don't buy 'em! I'd rather have a decent no-name bag than a counterfeit.
 

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Wait, wait....

"I have figured out that I've lost half a million kroner ($72,500) on piracy of my books, maybe more."

So, yeah, piracy is okay, unless you steal from me.

Damn good logic, if you ask me....
 

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VampiresDontSparkle said:
It's not moral to out your mother's pirated song collection in the media. If it was, wouldn't we all be doing it? I know a lot of people, some in my family, who have downloaded illegally -- I may not agree with it personally, but I would never go and tell the media/authorities about it, especially if I knew it would damage their reputation to the extent it did in this case. I'm sure this is also true for you. After all, it's not as if the mother was kidnapping people, or committing murder -- song pirating has become very commonplace (for better or worse) and is an offense that can be dealt with without causing such bad social repercussions.

After all, the hypocrisy of the mother's arguments could have been dealt with at home, if the son was that upset over it.
Who said he hadn't already tried to deal with it at home?

Your first mistake is defining "moral" as something "everyone would do". People often do things they know are wrong and feel bad about afterwards, like covering up for someones crimes if that someone is one they love, but they still do it for their own benefit or because they would have trouble dealing with the possible consequences on an emotional level. It could be a case like this where it's about piracy, but it could damned well also be about murder.

If a research was conducted that showed that more than 50% of the worlds population would keep quiet if their parents murdered someone, then by your argument, keeping quiet about it would be the "moral" thing to do. Don't honestly tell me i need to point out to you how ridiculous your logic sounds? :)

If people do something wrong, and especielly if it implicates others, then it needs to be exposed, and then it doesn't matter if it's the person themself, their kids, their grandparents or a third party who exposes it. A case of hypocrisy like this could have a great effect on future issues of Copyright in politics, possibly affecting millions of people. Should we really let a parent-child relationsship get in the way of that?

You, and some other people, are basically arguing that "feelings" or "emotions" should take priority over "common sense" or "neutrality". Short answer: No f*cking way.
 

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I would buy that kid a beer if I ever met him. Damn. We need more folks like this; family members willing to rat out other family members for piracy on a global stage.
 
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PayJ567 said:
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PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.
Wait, so if someone in your family did something that was illegal, you wouldn't report them to the authorities?
 

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Interesting. She's going to delete all that music not buy it. Doesn't that massively undermine her position of how much money she's "lost"?
 

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Nikolaz72 said:
dududf said:
Do you hate piracy?
*links to video that has a song in it, that is being sold*
You're now a hypocrite.
I believe if the guy hosting the video hosts it on a website it goes by the same rule as others listening in while you play music in your house as it is in a "Private space" you are technically in your room and he is technically playing the music from his computer/web while you listen to it. Though if you linked to a copyrighted musicvideo that you are sure the guy hosting does not in fact own and you/others watch it, your statement is correct.
I don't know the technicalities, but I'd assume it'd be fine if you're doing like a podcast, and you had some music. But hosting the video, for everyone to see should be about the same as pirating, as it's purpose is to share the music, while not making people pay to do so.
 

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Wow...She got crushed by her son.

And then to blame it all one hime. I bet in the next wordbook that the word hypocrite will have a picture of her.
 

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Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
JaredXE said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.
Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)
Wow! I dare you to say that to the people who raised you, "I owe you nothing." If that doesn't sound ungrateful then I don't know what does. Words from an absolutely spoiled mouth.
Sure it's law, but you forget if you don't take care of your children they are taken and put in foster care. Do you want to be in foster care? Ever been in foster care? Where you will spin around in the system, until(which can sometimes never happen)someone decides to adopt you.
So maybe when your home with your ipod, new console, wearing the latest fashion, borrowing money,and the cars. All of which is a privilege not a right, because all that is required legally is food,cloths,shelter, and safe living environment.
Wow what a spoiled brat you are.
 

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danpascooch said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.
Sorry but no one is above the law, especially not the law of hypocrisy (hyperbole). I love some of my family but I'd have no qualms about throwing them under the bus if they did something stupidly hypocritical or illegal. Are you going to tell me I'm lacking in morals for doing the right thing?
No I'm saying you lack respect and you clearly don't deserve the family you have been given if you have no qualms about throwing your family under a bus.
Jiraiya72 said:
PayJ567 said:
JaredXE said:
PayJ567 said:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little ****.

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.
Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.
Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)
Again all your showing me if you lack any respect for your parents which is incredibly wrong.
You're assuming based on a parent being a parent that they ever gave you respect at all. Which all parents don't. Lacking respect is only bad if they deserved respect. As for the bus, well, if their moral or illegal mistake could cost me my reputation or my freedom, why should I not throw them under it? I'm not going to have my character assassinated all because of some "respect" that I apparently owe them which prevented me from going to the authorities.
Haha "Character Assassinated" do you actually listen to yourself talk?

I mean really, you are clearly like a typical angsty teenager. Soon you'll grow up and realise all what your parents have done for you, or maybe you never will and you'll live a failure of a life and blame it all on your parents or someone else.
Do you listen to -yourself-? I'm the one siding on the Just side of the law and morals and you're calling me an angsty teen? Maybe you'll realize that just because people had children, doesn't mean they deserve respect. All they've done for me? Please don't say things like you -know- I had an easy life.
Don't bother, the guy obviously has some sort of unhealthy view/relationship with his parents. Equating respect to covering up illegal activity is dangerous and insane.

Respect does have to be earned, but unfortunately that line is used too often as an excuse for ungrateful punks to say they don't owe anything to their parents, which overwhelmingly more often then not they do.

I disagree with you that you don't owe anything to your parents, and that it's their job to do everything they do. But I believe the most anyone owes them is their eternal appreciation as long as they took reasonably good care of them. It doesn't mean you should be their slaves, and it sure as hell doesn't mean you should cover up crimes they commit.

Of course, I don't know you, I have no idea who you are or what your family is like, this is just my two-cents on what applies to probably 90% of us.
This is a great comment. I read through all this thread and decided not to get involved as it seemed to be spiralling dangerously out of control. You have very concisely summed up how I feel about this argument. Many thanks.

Not to get all tangenty but there are a ton of problems in society to do with parenting, or a lack there of. I mean just ask the thousands of kids on council estates across Britain, who were literally conceived by their parents with an amount of extra benefit money in mind, if their parents love them. You should never assume that all children should respect their parents and there are just as many undeserving parents who get it as those who don't.
*Gets off soapbox*
 

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Sounds like people should cut her some slack, probably didn't know her kid was doing it.
And as far as I'm concerned, unemployed, students and kids - the people with absolutely no money to spare, should be allowed to pirate. What are you going to do? sue them for their £4 a week pocket money?
Only when they have the means to pay, and they don't, is there a problem for me.

But pirating books, and pirating music are very different.
If you pirate music and like it, you're likely to go see a concert. Books don't have this. I justify the amount of music I pirate with the amount of money I spend on seeing those bands.
They may have lost me spending £8 on their album, but they've got me spending £15 on their concert, which I'd otherwise never have gone to.

EDIT: To quote from an amazing film: "Rotten kids... You work your life out." people should really cut their parents some slack.
 

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How does someone so stupid write something people want to pirate anyway?

Honestly, that is one hell of a hypocrite...
 

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Wow. So apparently my parents did a much better job of raising me than several people in this thread's parents raised them, because my parents would totally be disappointed in me if I didn't call them out on this kind of bullshit.

Seriously, what kind of parent raises their kid to cover up all their dirty little secrets for them? That's just wrong.
 

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ZephrC said:
Wow. So apparently my parents did a much better job of raising me than several people in this thread's parents raised them, because my parents would totally be disappointed in me if I didn't call them out on this kind of bullshit.

Seriously, what kind of parent raises their kid to cover up all their dirty little secrets for them? That's just wrong.
Yeah, I remember the phone rang once and my dad said "Hey, if it's from the job, say that I'm not at home". I picked up the phone, it was from the job and they asked if my dad was available. I told them "He says he's not at home".
Not very fond of parents that try to use their kids to lie or deceipt others for their own gain.
 

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RDubayoo said:
An important thing to remember in this incident is that, if someone says doing something is wrong, then goes on to do that very thing, this does not necessarily disprove the rule that this person was trying to establish. It merely means that this person was incapable of living up to his own standard, nothing more. It could be that the standard is too difficult to live up to, but, honestly? Choosing to pirate or not to pirate? That isn't hard at all unless you have a complete lack of self-control.

Even so, it's hardly surprising when people who simply don't want to live by the rules actively look for people to deem to be hypocrites, not so much to call them out on their hypocrisy but so that they can feel justified in not living by the rules themselves. Hence, a lot of pirates are going to see this article and think that it's ok to pirate because:

quiet_samurai said:
HA! I knew it, just goes to show you, digital piracy is deeply sewn into modern society. Even the ones who speak against it are not immune. It's a fact of life, you canoot stop it.
Trouble is, they're wrong. Society can't work under that sort of logic. What happens if a major politician condemns murder, then murders someone? Is it okay to murder people now? "Everyone's doing it, even the guys who say it's wrong, so I get to murder people too! Durrrr" No, of course not. So we have to eliminate the hypocrisy of those who claim to advocate law-abiding behavior as a justification for breaking the law. And when we do that, the remaining justifications for piracy boil down to people with child-like mentalities whining that it's not faaaiiiir that they have to pay for the things they want.

Holy exageration post Batman!!!!

Using murder as an example, and as a relating topic, to argue against digital piracy is in no way even remotely accurate. They are completely, completely, COMPLETELY, different things. It's like saying the guy that smokes weed is just as bad as the guy that cooks meth in his house around his children. Applying the same sort of scenarios and catagorizing things together that are not even remotely equal is idiotic and desperate seeming.