I am perfectly fine with making someone who did something wrong in the past, which again you have pointed out many times, is illegal, suffer in the future. Especially since the person in question is saying that when he did it was fine, but all of us who do it now should be punished and should suffer for it.Akalabeth said:Is there a reason you're putting Eight Dollar Game in quotation marks? Is the game less valuable and therefore less of a problem to pirate it because of the price?Cecilo said:As many people have previously said. This is about pirating an "Eight Dollar Game". He pirated games, so why should I feel bad that he got his game pirated now. Answer is. I shouldn't. The only reason he cares about it now, is that it is his game. I can guarantee you, he did not care about whose job he was killing, or whose family he was stealing from when he did it, so he can take his self righteous "You dirty pirates" Message and shove it.Akalabeth said:Because this is a discussion about piracy in general, not piracy as it relates to this specific developer.Cecilo said:Except he pirated games in his youth, so.. again why should ANYONE care about the fact that he is having HIS game pirated now?Akalabeth said:No, I'm sorry but this is not a shitty world, the only thing that's shitty here is your justifications and your perspective.blackrave said:I almost shed a tear, ALMOST!
But once again this is shitty world.
And would such developer feel better if nobody would even bother to pirate his/her game?
Because if your game is being pirated, you did something right.
If your game isn't pirated then you just produced shit.
Harsh reality, sad reality, disappointing reality, but still reality.
I'm sorry that you're unable to empathize with someone who's working his ass off to create a game that you feel entitled to steal. You talk to me about charity? You know that charity depends upon giving a shit for someone else? And yet you come up with all sorts of rationalizations why giving a shit for a developer is something you don't need to do? That you feel entitled not to do? Of having not done?
You think a developer should feel grateful people are stealing his game? What world do you live in? Maybe you should feel grateful when someone makes sexist remarks to your girlfriend. After all, if no one openly comments on how great her ass is it must mean she's not very attractive right? That's the sort of logic you're dealing.
Discussion over.
He justified it by saying "Games weren't readily available in my youth" (Paraphrasing), Okay. Well, money is not readily available in this recession, so I guess we are even eh?
What you as a youth (presumably) don't understand is that wisdom is a product of age. And while he may have fileshared in the past his perspective is now different. You would be wise yourself to listen to the advice and opinions of your elders so that you can benefit from what they know and in part avoid making the same mistakes they have. Instead however, you're just using it as further justification to do something unjustified.
If a boy once beat up a boy in school, should we feel no empathy for them when they're getting beat up as an adult? Not listen to their plea for assistance? That's essentially the philosophy you're promoting.
And if in your youth you make a mistake and someone holds it against you in your adult life and chooses to not respect what you have to say when you need respect the most, then remember this lesson.
And actually yes, I am perfectly fine with that kind of philosophy. He did something wrong, he took no issue with him doing it wrong, into adulthood he still says it was justified, but because it now effects him he doesn't want it to happen anymore. So no, I have no sympathy for him, I would if maybe, he would at least admit that what he did was wrong, but no. He says it was fine, it was justified.
And yea, I have learned something from him, if I say it is alright to do it, it is, as long as I feel it is.