Playing in a Guild Is Good for Your Health

Keane Ng

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Playing in a Guild Is Good for Your Health



Contrary to popular belief, being in a guild in an MMOG doesn't turn you into an antisocial loser. It can actually be quite beneficial to your health - if you can control yourself, that is.

Those of us who keep company with the geekier of geeks might be familiar with the sting of being blown off on a social engagement for something far more important: "Sorry guys, I can't come over and play Rock Band while drinking an entire case of Mountain Dew Game Fuel, I've got a raid with my guild in World of Warcraft."

It's easy to say that forming personal and social attachments to friends in MMOGs is an unhealthy thing, especially when it's you who's getting the shaft because of it, but according to a new study coming out of Australia, being in a guild and having genuine emotional ties to the people in that guild can actually be good for your psychological well being.

"Players often form friendships with each other, and while adventuring together in the world, fighting monsters and slaying dragons, they often discuss what is going on in their offline lives with these friends," Huon Longman, a researcher at the Queensland University of Technology said [http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology/geeks-in-shape-world-of-warcraft-lowers-stress-study-finds-20090911-fk92.html]. "I found the more benefit [gamers] drew from these online relationships the less they had negative psychological symptoms such as anxiety, depression and stress."

Of the 200 World of Warcraft players surveyed, Longman says that most kept their habits within sensible bounds: 20 or so hours of play a week. 10%, however, were going way beyond that, as far as 83 hours per week in one case. These people weren't seeing any of the benefits Longman found in the others. "They weren't receiving any more social support from the game and they were receiving a lot less from offline and they had significantly more negative psychological symptoms," he said.

So that's what one scientist says. Is it true for you? At this point I'm probably averaging maybe half of what Longman says is an average playtime per week, and I don't have many friends in-game, but in my more dedicated days I can certainly say that WoW wasn't bad for my social life. I did talk about my real-life problems with guildies, and communication's always a good thing, so yes, I suppose it could have had its benefits. Having people to help you get those phat loots isn't so bad either.

[Via WoW.com [http://www.wow.com/2009/09/14/study-playing-in-a-guild-actually-lowers-stress/]]

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skintrade

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My Eve-Online corp always encourages players to put RL first, no game is worth your life. We are actually quite social with at least 1 annual gathering! You get more out of Eve in a corp than you would do solo, you just have to find the one that suits you!
 

Radeonx

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I was able to balance things when I played WoW, so I had great fun with a guild. Being with some real life friends in one guild also helps.
 

The Great JT

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I don't really think of my guildmates as buddies, per se, I see them more as "people to talk to as I manage to stave off homicidal tendencies."
 

That One Six

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I can't manage that; I can't manage any kind of relationship. I'm apparently menacing in a sociopathic way, as I never smile, and always look angry or sad, and I have been told that I give off no emotions at all. Well, that's what a person gets for ten straight years of being mocked and hated while repressing all hopes and dreams as unrealistic and stupid.

I'm pretty messed up, aren't I?
 

Amnestic

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Does Cyber count as social interaction? Just asking.
As much as calling up a phone sex hotline counts as social interaction, I suppose.
 

Keane Ng

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Avykins said:
... All I am going to say is it is a study coming out of Australia... come on.

Anyway on a serious note. >.>
So getting all attached to online folk who are more than likely soo not who they claim they are and just whining about all your day to day bullshit to people who really do not care is healthy for you? Sure, it probably is. However I doubt it is healthy for them having to listen to you complain constantly.
I think the idea is that it's a give-and-take. You vent to people, they vent to you. That seems pretty healthy and really, not unlike the relationships people form in real life.
 

Ranooth

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My old WAR guild gave me stress more then anything, although we did want to be the server's number 1,
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Amnestic said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Does Cyber count as social interaction? Just asking.
As much as calling up a phone sex hotline counts as social interaction, I suppose.
Good, just checking. Are you getting your 5 a day?
Root, sometimes you scare me.

I often chat about RL in WoW with random people and guildies. MMO's are essencially social networking sites with mods, grinding and noobs attached, so yer of coarse they can be some help socially if taken in minority.

The problems arise when you play too often and find you don't have any life to talk about.
 

Charli

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Yup I'm of that 90%, I'll buy this.
I chat with guildies same as regular friends and good times are had in raids (obviously there are moments when we all just want to smack each other, but frankly I've had moments like those with my family too, so what thee eff)

The ones who don't usually are already very socially detached to start with... Hell I'll will announce to my guild that I'm eating toast and get 30 odd silly comments back and it's just good venting fun. The rest do the same. Some just raid and are totally silent all day, they frequently disappear after a while...No biggie but it's a shame, MMO's are built around communication...

But I can't just gain all my social interaction online, that much is simple. But it's not as unhealthy as alot of people like to pander and wave their sharp objects above their heads about. No more unhealthy than Msn/Text msg Addicts like I observe in most teens today.
We just go kill simulated monsters while we're at it.
 

Amnestic

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Amnestic said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Does Cyber count as social interaction? Just asking.
As much as calling up a phone sex hotline counts as social interaction, I suppose.
Good, just checking. Are you getting your 5 a day?
I've had to cut back. My doctor said that I'd overindulged as of late. He's put me on a strict regiment of 2/day slowly weening up to 4/day when TOR gets released. If I don't relapse, he's said it's safe to return to the necessary 5/day.
 

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Keane Ng said:
Avykins said:
... All I am going to say is it is a study coming out of Australia... come on.

Anyway on a serious note. >.>
So getting all attached to online folk who are more than likely soo not who they claim they are and just whining about all your day to day bullshit to people who really do not care is healthy for you? Sure, it probably is. However I doubt it is healthy for them having to listen to you complain constantly.
I think the idea is that it's a give-and-take. You vent to people, they vent to you. That seems pretty healthy and really, not unlike the relationships people form in real life.
Exactly.

I find that these days (since school started) my mates and I haven't been going on Xbox live party chat. I must say it is perhaps the best thing about live. Gaming takes a far second place and all we do is talk. Sometimes we would stop playing altogether, stay in chat, and watch Starwars on spike TV.

Granted the best of them I actually know them in real life, chilling there playing games and talking with friends is perhaps the greatest of things games have done for my life.

Which is, btw, why I love my Xbox360, it's all about the party chat.
 

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I have a confession to make....I play Second Life. Now that I have that in the open, I can add my own two cents to this, and say that being able to share openly with friends and guildmates (in WoW) is good medicine. I still keep my WoW and SL intake rationed, so I keep the good part of the other half of the coin as well. Thank you Keane for rationalizing my thought process on this!
On another note, I find social interaction in multiplayer FPS's to be quite the opposite, especially L4D Versus and CoD4. That would make for an interesting social study as well.
 

tehroc

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I guess you could say that, WOW PUGs are just absolutely fucking horrible. I'd rather stab myself in the face with a spoon then waste my time with some 12 yr old rambo that has zero clue with how to interact with others.
 

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So if you spend at least some of your time outside, socialising with actual humans between your limited gametime, you won't turn into a hideous, overweight, unwashed, antisocial cavebeast?

Wow. My tax dollars probably went into this.

I need to become a statistician. 5 minutes on Google and I'd have come up with the same answer, for slightly less government money than that guy.