Playing Videogames is Like Snorting Coke, Says Therapist
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EXACTLY. I'm so sick of replying to this news. Not every gamer is like this. Period.Flamezdudes said:
How can you be mad at videogames for being too good?
That's basically what the problem is, they're so good that you want to spend time playing them.
DAMN those videogames, and their dastardly plot to be exceedingly awesome.
That's basically what the problem is, they're so good that you want to spend time playing them.
DAMN those videogames, and their dastardly plot to be exceedingly awesome.
Last I checked, the only thing video games claimed (I say claimed because I don't think it's true) to destroy is your social skills, and we don't really need to those to survive anyway.
Drugs, however, destroy your organs, bones, social life, personal life, job, and will to live.
Which do you think is worse: Drugs or games?
Drugs, however, destroy your organs, bones, social life, personal life, job, and will to live.
Which do you think is worse: Drugs or games?
this. most gamers i know are completely fully functional and do have other hobbiesErana said:
HOWEVER
crack/drugs/etc... they have that one hobby. and other things that consist of getting more of that hobby.
so like fucking hell they are the same.
its the parents fault i would like to say for not giving there kid other hobbies to do, and letting them play that much, i mean wtf as a kid, even if i did have 20 hours to spare one day to play games, usually once every hour i would get a new chore to do around the house so i wouldn't end up playing for more then 3-4 hours that day overall
parents need to take charge in raising there kid, wether that means applying the hand firmly and quickly to the ass, or putting them in "time out" or giving them chores, whatever works. the games are NOT babysitters.
AwesomeMurderousToaster said:
OT: I assume by high mr. Pope is referring to endorphins and other opiate-like chemicals being released in your brain, which is a symptom of other dangerous and addictive activities like sex and exercise and laughing. Clearly the only way to save humanity is to seal ourselves in little gray concrete pods that shut out all sensory input and fill our bodies with general anesthetic so we can't have deviant thoughts.
I dunno, he might be right. If I snort 3 lines of coke and then play God of War for an hour, it feels like I snorted 4 lines instead! I also feel really sleepy sometimes when I get done playing TF2 at 3AM and cocaine withdrawal makes you tired! We need to admit we have a problem.
Sounds like another case of parents not doing their job. And I'm pretty sure its something more than just the games if the kid reacts in that kind of way. I think there are family issues that need to be sorted out.
I agree some games can be addicting. But I also think some people just have addictive natures. They can't help themselves, and their willpower to stop them simply doesn't exist. Or they don't want the willpower to exist.
I have a weakness for online rpg games. So I don't play them. Already got in trouble once for playing those to much.
I agree some games can be addicting. But I also think some people just have addictive natures. They can't help themselves, and their willpower to stop them simply doesn't exist. Or they don't want the willpower to exist.
I have a weakness for online rpg games. So I don't play them. Already got in trouble once for playing those to much.
i really doubt the chalice is being handed down through the generation. because that's mean that the video game addicted 74 years old grand-mother made her daughter addited to ebay, to hooked up her duagther to facebook.Gigaguy64 said:
it make more sense if it's pass upward through generation. the kid goes on the net showed it to her mother that showed it to her mother...
time to read a chick comic strip to remember what D&D really is, since it got as much credibility as this study...Drakmeire said:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp
Silly question then: does playing D&D Online make the gaming equivilent of speedballing? Or is it the equivent of sacrificing a cat to the dark gods by making it snort coke? And could anyone answer me why my mind thinks in these strange avenues of thought?Drakmeire said:
Oh, and some games do not deliver the drugs well. For games like that, such as Deus Ex: Invisible War, I suggest grinding up the CD and inhaling directly. Through the nose.
Well, the best way to get people to agree to allowing the goverment to control information/speech/the media is to create a panic, and oddly there are a lot of private people and industries on board. This is one of the best performed and coordinated attacks we've seen, video games are being assaulted on every front, using every tactic and perspective used during previous cases of "panic".
Let's be honest, kids are kids, they get involved in things obsessively. They hurt themselves, they blow off their homework and chores for pretty much anything. They get dramatic when their grounded and have their stuff taken away from them.
The same things being said here, up to and including the violence, have been said about teenagers taste in "evil music". Albiet I don't think I've actually heard anyone try and claim that video games have "taken control" of anyone and gotten them to committ/attempt suicide.
If video games survive the current assault, it will be something else in a few years.
One thing I'll point out in cases of "addiction behavior" is that there have been people who have literally ruined themselves buying things like baseball cards, sports memorbilia, or comic books. On top of this you have had people literally kill themselves by obsessively playing sports, this has included dehydration and other issues.
I don't see any real enimity between "Jocks" and "Gamers" unlike some people, so don't misunderstand my point her, but I'd point out that being involved in sports, weight lifting, and other things while more understood by the mainstream and "healthier" have probably killed, injured, led to illegal activity, and destroyed more educational careers than video games, and for a longer period of time. Plenty of people have totally blown off everything else to play sports, with naive dreams of "well I can just go pro" even if they don't have that much talent, this problem has been mentioned but never addressed to the same level as video games. Never mind all of the people succeeding in sports have lead to illegal and outright dangerous behaviors like taking steroids, or simply pushing themselves too hard leading to crippling injury or death.
There is a dual standard, the main differance is being that athletics is an understood and respected hobby by the mainstream. Gaming generally is not. Yet I'm hard pressed to say gaming is actually the more dangerous of the two. Even if you look at some loser janitor who has done nothing except play a game like "World Of Warcraft" or "Everquest", and say this "destroyed his life", you can also look at athletes who totally ignored education, and wound up just as pathetic doing the same kinds of thing. The old Al Bundy "I played high school football" schtick. Some 25 year old with borderline incohernt speech and brain damage who is a failed boxer, having gotten punched in the head regularly while training since he was 13 and then never went anywhere is not exactly an inspiring sight.
... yet oddly, nobody suggests we ban sports based on these disturbing occurances, which I honestly don't think are even especially rare compared to the the worst that can be said about video games. It totally comes down to mainstream acceptance, politics, and what seems to be an easy scapegoat for other problems, rather than a genuine issue.
Such is my opinion.
Let's be honest, kids are kids, they get involved in things obsessively. They hurt themselves, they blow off their homework and chores for pretty much anything. They get dramatic when their grounded and have their stuff taken away from them.
The same things being said here, up to and including the violence, have been said about teenagers taste in "evil music". Albiet I don't think I've actually heard anyone try and claim that video games have "taken control" of anyone and gotten them to committ/attempt suicide.
If video games survive the current assault, it will be something else in a few years.
One thing I'll point out in cases of "addiction behavior" is that there have been people who have literally ruined themselves buying things like baseball cards, sports memorbilia, or comic books. On top of this you have had people literally kill themselves by obsessively playing sports, this has included dehydration and other issues.
I don't see any real enimity between "Jocks" and "Gamers" unlike some people, so don't misunderstand my point her, but I'd point out that being involved in sports, weight lifting, and other things while more understood by the mainstream and "healthier" have probably killed, injured, led to illegal activity, and destroyed more educational careers than video games, and for a longer period of time. Plenty of people have totally blown off everything else to play sports, with naive dreams of "well I can just go pro" even if they don't have that much talent, this problem has been mentioned but never addressed to the same level as video games. Never mind all of the people succeeding in sports have lead to illegal and outright dangerous behaviors like taking steroids, or simply pushing themselves too hard leading to crippling injury or death.
There is a dual standard, the main differance is being that athletics is an understood and respected hobby by the mainstream. Gaming generally is not. Yet I'm hard pressed to say gaming is actually the more dangerous of the two. Even if you look at some loser janitor who has done nothing except play a game like "World Of Warcraft" or "Everquest", and say this "destroyed his life", you can also look at athletes who totally ignored education, and wound up just as pathetic doing the same kinds of thing. The old Al Bundy "I played high school football" schtick. Some 25 year old with borderline incohernt speech and brain damage who is a failed boxer, having gotten punched in the head regularly while training since he was 13 and then never went anywhere is not exactly an inspiring sight.
... yet oddly, nobody suggests we ban sports based on these disturbing occurances, which I honestly don't think are even especially rare compared to the the worst that can be said about video games. It totally comes down to mainstream acceptance, politics, and what seems to be an easy scapegoat for other problems, rather than a genuine issue.
Such is my opinion.
They're addictive in the sense that donuts are addictive, except even less so, as at least donuts give a sugar high.
We enjoy playing games, therefore we want to do it again. By those standards, everything ever that any ever enjoyed is the same as injecting heroin straight into your eye.
what needs to be made clear is the different between psychological addiction, which I believe games can cause, and chemical addiction, which , despite gamers experiencing higher levels of pleasure chemicals, I don't believe games cause.
We enjoy playing games, therefore we want to do it again. By those standards, everything ever that any ever enjoyed is the same as injecting heroin straight into your eye.
what needs to be made clear is the different between psychological addiction, which I believe games can cause, and chemical addiction, which , despite gamers experiencing higher levels of pleasure chemicals, I don't believe games cause.
