PlayStation 2 Discontinued in Japan
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Even as a devoted PC gamer I cannot deny that PS2 is the best damn console ever made. I still have it. And I still love it. I've been playing some DMC3SE and Resident Evil 4 a couple of days ago. I have over 100 games for it.
Strazdas said:
Yes, windows is trying to kill XP, everyone in the industry is, because NOW Windos XP really is totally obsolete compared to Win7. There were a lot of reasons to not graduate from XP to vista, but all those reasons are gone with Win7
But Win8 is in the same situation as Vista, is is not worth the upgrade. It is pretty much NOTHING but a touch interface for Win7 which is WORTHLESS if you are using a mouse and keyboard. Most PC monitors sold today have no touchscreen interface at all and very few laptops have any touchscreen, most of them specially for Win8.
Console games are a larger share than PC of the gaming market, and really, they always have been. More people playing angry birds on iPhone doesn't mean Half Life 3 is going to be a Portable-Exclusive. Portable gaming is a small niche and the numbers are hugely inflated. The fact is people have these devices primarily for COMMUNICATION and MEDIA (internet, music, movies, shows, etc) you can't confer you have 100 million portable gamers just because you have 100 million phones with Angry Birds installed on them.
"trust me they are taking gamers away"
I would have to trust you because you don't have a shred of evidence.
Where is even a SINGLE PERSON who has sold their Xbox or gaming PC because "nah, my tiny mobile phone screen and limited touchscreen controls are far superior"? Maybe you can find a handful of nutters who didn't care about console gaming in the first place, but that trend is NOT THERE!
It's NOT A ZERO SUM CHANGE! If a gamer buys a smart-phone that can play extremely basic games, that doesn't mean he gives up on all other games on his PC or console.
Mobile phone gaming is INHERENTLY by the form factor: small and peripheral.
*Salutes* It has been an honor, PS2. I just need to get my own before they discontinue it here in the States.
Well, I've had mine for 8 years and still functioning, but you never know... I'm going to stockpile a spare PS2 and controllers at the next opportunity.
I disagree. There are plenty of reasons to stay in win XP when comapred to win 7. however i agree that as far as software and ahrdware support goes it is getting obsolete. it is a 11 year old product after all granted, SP3 which personally i found not very helpful but maybe ot was mroe aimed at other type of users came out in 2008 so you could argue 5 year old).Treblaine said:
Win8 is same as vista was to XP. the problem is, they are going to do the same thing they did at the time vista came out - make sure that shops can only sell computers with win8. baning legal win 7 sales), and the result will be like last time - increase in pirated win 7 (xp back then) because legally they were only selling it from "under the counter".
Console games are larger share at the moment. there was a short period of time PC was leading but those days are long gone and really thats not anythin to brag about. and i would agree with you that HL wont be portable exclusive but some games will. the manufacturers see the market and if they see that there is a 100 million potential costumers in market A and 10 million costumers in market B and developing the game for both markets almost double the developing costs, they are very likely to just skip the market B. we saw this with games announced to go to PC but remain unported because "it wont sell enough". the msot famous example probably would be what rockstar was doing lately. the situation is quite similar to the whole "casual gamer" problem, and its not a gamer sided problem but industry sided problem. but this guy explains it much better than i could [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.396692-Most-Boring-Opinions-in-Geek-Culture-Part-II?page=5#16208107]
It is true that there are not many people who woudl claim to drop their gaming because "handheld is superior". yet. i know a few people who says they wont update thier pc anymore because their smartphone "will do all the same anyway". and they are gamers. granted not the "hardcore no-life competetive" type of gamers but gamers none the less.
certainly, its not a zero sum change, but the time we have to play is a zero sum change. if you have, say, 2 hours per day for gaming. and you chose to spend those 2 hours in a iphone game, you dont have time to play on your PC, and if that trend continues, you may stop pc gaming completely since theres only so many hours in the day. the way handheld gaming market has been going, its catching up pretty quickly (think it did in 2 years what "big" gaming industry took 10) and i wouldnt be surprised if in 10 years it can play the same games.
Anyway, this turned into way bigger discussion that i thought it would and we are getting a bit offtopic
hopefully moderators will be forgiving.
But people don't spend 100% of their time at home with their Gaming PC or Home console.Strazdas said:
The niche mobile phones exist in is when people are away from their homes where a home console or PC would be impractical to follow. The TIME away from their home entertainment systems!
Angry Birds is simply better than nothing. When away from all the tech at home.
People don't sit in front of their Xbox or gaming-PC and chose their mobile gaming instead, not to any significant demographic changing extent.
And games only get into the niche of how people want phones and games can piggy back on the side of that. Pure games console like 3DS and PSV are not selling very well. Even iPod Touch (that can play all iOS games) isn't selling very well compared to smartphones.
