And did we see what it does? Do we know what the touch screen on the controller 'adds' to gameplay, do we know the specifics of video capture and sharing? No.
PlayStation UK Boss Upset With Fan Reaction to PS4 Event
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Rogue 09 said:
I would say the WII was a brilliant move in the console wars. We don't need Bluray, we don't need hyper graphics to see a zit on Solid Snakes chin, we'll fall back on... games people enjoyed. And selling a cheaper system with the licensed games people grew up with. The Metroid games were fun, my daughter found tons of shovelware to be happy and enjoyed super mario just like I did as a kid.
Trying not to bash...the 360 started with red rings, and a 50 percent failure(seen sites from 50-80 so giving them benifit of the doubt) rate on hardware. Not a good start.
Owning all three systems, My WII never broke. My PS3 1st gen needed one laser replacement after a abusive 5 years of playing DVD's for the kid and my old ps2 games nonstop, my 360 was replaced 4 times in a year and a half with casual use.
As well I'm a keep something off if it's not being played kind of person, so I didn't just let the 360 on for weeks at a time.
I was less than happy with the 360 till they gave me the slim with a free kinetic my kid plays to death.
The practice of throwing out something broken and PR dancing around it seems to be Microsofts forte.
I'm hoping this next gen or cosoles being... Higher quality products and less rushed out the door, well doorstops (in a month)
What Sony needs to grasp is that we just got shafted by Gearbox. Not three weeks before their conference, still fresh in our memories is how Gearbox's demos and interviews leading up to Colonial marines out and out LIED to us. So yes, we're going to be a bit cynical. We're going to ask to see your CONSOLE running these demos, not some PC in the back room. We're going to ask to see evidence that what we're seeing isn't prerendered video, and we're going to demand more than a guy on stage pantomiming to be certain what you're showing is actual game play.
The gaming consumer has had enough being lied to by publishers, developers and hardware producers. We want to see your console, and we want to see it doing what you say it can do.
The gaming consumer has had enough being lied to by publishers, developers and hardware producers. We want to see your console, and we want to see it doing what you say it can do.
agreed! Let's face it until we see the ps4 plugged into a telly with actual games footage we don't know what it can do, those HD shiny pixel perfect trailers could hvae been powered by a computer the size of Texas for all we know!DVS BSTrD said:
Agreed. I don't trust anyone in the industry anymore, not since about midway through this generation. There has been too much bs on the part of devs/publishers/etc, for me not to see everything they do now as a little bit sketchy. They have lost my trust, and they will have to work to get it back.DVS BSTrD said:
Whilst I personally didn't care if they showed the system or not, a box is not 'just a box'. People will decide to buy anything, from clothes, cars, washing machines, cutlery, all partially depending on what they look like. For the looks of an object, like it or lump it, can represent so much more i.e. image.
This guy could not have missed the point of fan outcry harder.
It's not about -seeing- the console, it's about not being able too trust that what we're seeing on the screen is actually coming from a console. Which, in most cases, it isn't. I've been a fan of Sony for a while but everything that this guy said just illustrates how ignorant their upper echelons are of gamers. We can't trust them anymore, they've lied so many times, and when they seem too balk at the idea of having too prove that what is on the screen is actually coming from a PS4 rather than a souped up computer with four Nvidia 690's jammed in it, it just makes us more suspicious.
It's not about -seeing- the console, it's about not being able too trust that what we're seeing on the screen is actually coming from a console. Which, in most cases, it isn't. I've been a fan of Sony for a while but everything that this guy said just illustrates how ignorant their upper echelons are of gamers. We can't trust them anymore, they've lied so many times, and when they seem too balk at the idea of having too prove that what is on the screen is actually coming from a PS4 rather than a souped up computer with four Nvidia 690's jammed in it, it just makes us more suspicious.
To be clear; I'm not suggesting that the PS3 and 360 can keep up for years and years, but I figure they've still got another year or so left before they're completely and utterly worthless (as far as the gaming industry is concerned, anways).Hammeroj said:
How are the consumers supposed to react to a produce showcase that has no product? Just fancy demos of things that nobody can touch, see, feel or inspect? I suspect they reacted like I did. WIth derision and suspicion leading to a wait until I see one before any decision is made.
The gaming community has a negative reaction to vaporware. Which, one might recall, is what Sony presented with the PS3. Games that never showed up and Featured Games (!!) that were years late. Features that were consistently removed every six months or so.
Remember linux via the Other OS? Yes, the same function that will never be removed from PS3. The box that does everything. Except what they promised or for how long they promised.
Signed by the PS3 Linux purchaser.
The gaming community has a negative reaction to vaporware. Which, one might recall, is what Sony presented with the PS3. Games that never showed up and Featured Games (!!) that were years late. Features that were consistently removed every six months or so.
Remember linux via the Other OS? Yes, the same function that will never be removed from PS3. The box that does everything. Except what they promised or for how long they promised.
Signed by the PS3 Linux purchaser.
