- Feb 3, 2010
"Women and children first" has its roots in biology, not chivalry. Men are significantly more disposable if your a priori goal is maintaining a healthy breeding population and propagating the species.Loki_The_Good said:Like a comedian I saw recently said "It's not that I don't want women to have equal pay, but when the ship is going down I want the women right beside me." The problem is the requirements of men to hold onto ideals of chivalry which in a gender equal society is something that simply should not exist.
Not that this is likely foremost on anyone's minds, but these root level biological concerns tend to inform a lot more of our actions than we like to think they do.
Martin S. Fiebert of the Department of Psychology at California State University, Long Beach, has compiled an annotated bibliography of research relating to spousal abuse by women on men. This bibliography examines 275 scholarly investigations: 214 empirical studies and 61 reviews and/or analyses that appear to demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 365,000.
Erin Pizzey who opened one of the first women?s refuges in 1971, has said that almost as many men as women are victims of domestic violence and found that over half (62%) of the women she admitted were as violent as their partners. She also stated that men were in need of a different kind of help than is currently available to them.
I've never hit a girl before, but I have to say I was tempted after my ex slagged me in the head with a frying pan after I told her almost politely to GTFO of my apartment. Mild concussions do wonders for the mood.
That was some selective Wikipedia quoting. You quite literally stopped RIGHT before the criticisms of that study were noted.In a 2002 review of the research however Michael Kimmel found that violence is instrumental in maintaining control and that more than 90% of "systematic, persistent, and injurious" violence is perpetrated by men. He points out that most of the empirical studies that Fiebert reviewed used the same empirical measure of family conflict, i.e., the Conflict Tactics Scale (CTS) as the sole measure of domestic violence and that many of the studies noted by Fiebert discussed samples composed entirely of single people younger than 30, not married couples. Kimmel argues that among various other flaws, the CTS is particularly vulnerable to reporting bias because it depends on asking people to accurately remember and report what happened during the past year. Men tend to underestimate their use of violence, while women tend to overestimate their use of violence. Simultaneously men tend to overestimate their partner's use of violence while women tend to underestimate their partner's use of violence. Thus, men will likely overestimate their victimization, while women tend to underestimate theirs.
Similarly, the National Institute of Justice states that some studies finding equal or greater frequency of abuse by women against men are based on data compiled through the Conflict Tactics Scale. This survey tool was developed in the 1970s and may not be appropriate for intimate partner violence research because it does not measure control, coercion, or the motives for conflict tactics; it also leaves out sexual assault and violence by ex-spouses or partners and does not determine who initiated the violence. Furthermore, the NIJ contends that national surveys supported by NIJ, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Bureau of Justice Statistics that examine more serious assaults do not support the conclusion of similar rates of male and female spousal assaults. These surveys are conducted within a safety or crime context and clearly find more partner abuse by men against women. However, the 32-nation study by Straus (2008) and a study by Whitaker et al. (2007) report that female perpetrated domestic abuse is more common than male.
Shall we all not do the study and statistics thing? We're all just going to select the one that reinforces our own bias and cheer it.
PS - Moar bunnies plox.