Police Arrest Woman for Facebook Poke

zidine100

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ummm, she already filed a restraining order, but kept him as a freind on facebook (im assuming that you have to be a freind to poke someone i havent really used facebook before) if he has violeted the restraining order so has she, for not severing all contact with the person who she filed a restraining order against, and not removing him from her freinds list. If i am right then this makes no sence. So yeh im going to call bs here.

If not then what the hell was she thinking in the first place for keeping him on there.
 
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Snowalker said:
Well, for one, if she is a friend on Facebook, doesn't that count as contact?
Ok, let me explain this once more, simply:
Woman 1/Woman 2 became friends.
Woman 1/Woman 2 had an argument of sorts.
Woman 2 is now so scared of Woman 1 she has a restraining order. She does not want to go near anything that reminds her of Woman 2.
Woman 1 tried to get in contact with Woman 2 despite having a legal obligation not to.
Woman 1 gets arrested.

Seriously,
if Jackson did intentionally poke the unnamed woman, she probably should rightfully suffer the consequences.
Those consequences are being arrested.
 

obisean

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When you remove a friend, they are sent an E-mail saying so. Would that e-mail be considered contact? It's the same idea really. I click a button. An automated e-mail (not from me) is sent to the owner of that respective button.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Snowalker said:
Well, for one, if she is a friend on Facebook, doesn't that count as contact?
Ok, let me explain this once more, simply:
Woman 1/Woman 2 became friends.
Woman 1/Woman 2 had an argument of sorts.
Woman 2 is now so scared of Woman 1 she has a restraining order. She does not want to go near anything that reminds her of Woman 2.
Woman 1 tried to get in contact with Woman 2 despite having a legal obligation not to.
Woman 1 gets arrested.

Seriously,
Again, did not answer the question, you explained the situation, which I already understand. If she remained friends on Facebook does or does that not count as contact? If no, then what about the status messages, do those? I mean sure, there to everyone on your friend's list, but that also means they are sent your way. And, again, if you can not coup with dealing with them on Facebook, delete the account, or change e-mails so your not spammed anymore, do something. You can do much better to avoid a person than jusy by saying "I can't deal with looking at them for 5mins to delete them, so I'll just try to ignore them."

P.S. Sorry, about the bad break up.
 

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This reminds me of the lady who sued Brookfield Zoo because the dolphins, at the dolphin show, made the floor wet and therefore slippery.

OT: People are dumb. XD
 
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Again, did not answer the question, you explained the situation, which I already understand. If she remained friends on Facebook does or does that not count as contact? If no, then what about the status messages, do those? I mean sure, there to everyone on your friend's list, but that also means they are sent your way. And, again, if you can not coup with dealing with them on Facebook, delete the account, or change e-mails so your not spammed anymore, do something. You can do much better to avoid a person than jusy by saying "I can't deal with looking at them for 5mins to delete them, so I'll just try to ignore them."
P.S. Sorry, about the bad break up.
Ok, put it this way:
This person - who you've been living in fear from, who you trusted, who you swapped jokes with - has now turned on you to the point where you've had to get the law involved through many terrifying days of court works. You've been living on the edge of your nerves and then when you log in to Facebook to let people know why you've been away, the first thing you see is that they are waiting there for you...

If this was a movie, you'd have the screeching violin moment right there, and you'd be screaming at them to get the police involved.
As it is, you're just sitting back and saying "Should have sorted that earlier"? Shouldn't the emphasis in a court case be for the victim and against the assailant?
Jackson broke the terms of her restraint and should be arrested.

This is not about some crazy ***** suing someone because she got spooked, this is about someone who has already gone through enough to make them file a restraining order having someone deliberately break it.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Chipperz said:
Surely if she hadn't been on Facebook, she wouldn't have noticed she'd been poked?
Usually it will send out a mail as well, imagine getting one in the morning saying "Creepy stalker has just poked you."
doing it because of a restraining order is pretty much mandatory.
Fine, all you have to do is return to the internet, where they could be waiting...watching to see if you remove them, with their all too-familiar avatar staring at you, waiting for you to make that first move which proves you were against them all along.

Like I say, I've still got one person on my friends list who I daren't remove. It's just easier to ignore them than have them chasing me again.
And yet this person decided to file a restraining order and then have the person arrested? That just doesn't say 'I'm too scared to remove you from my facebook page, but not my physical presence'.
Most people have been through a bad break-up, and would not hesitate to remove that person from their life, if you really want them out of it and are THAT scared. Including facebook.
I welcomed mine with open arms and put the user on 'block' because I knew then that I could not be bothered.
If this person was so scared, then she could have ANOTHER friend go to her page and put Shannon on block or ignore, or remove her.

Not doing so is keeping the lines of communication open, under her own will, and asking for problems to arise. If you go through the trouble to file an order of protection, facebook should be no problem. She should have removed her while she was filing the restraining order.
Maybe Shannon thought that Unnamed person had already deleted her, and didn't bother to check her friend list. Fackebook doesn't notify you if someone 'un-friends' you. They just cease to be.

You seem to have real problems with this person that is stalking you, root_of_all_evil. Perhaps you should file something as well, or at least seek some help. You seem to almost border paranoia.
 
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If I was borderline paranoid, do you think it would help that person for a bunch of people to come onto a forum and accuse them of doing something stupid - like you are doing now - or do you think it might make them worse?

People who have been victims of a crime often exhibit something called "fear" which stops them doing things that a normal person might just work out.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Snowalker said:
Again, did not answer the question, you explained the situation, which I already understand. If she remained friends on Facebook does or does that not count as contact? If no, then what about the status messages, do those? I mean sure, there to everyone on your friend's list, but that also means they are sent your way. And, again, if you can not coup with dealing with them on Facebook, delete the account, or change e-mails so your not spammed anymore, do something. You can do much better to avoid a person than jusy by saying "I can't deal with looking at them for 5mins to delete them, so I'll just try to ignore them."
P.S. Sorry, about the bad break up.
Ok, put it this way:
This person - who you've been living in fear from, who you trusted, who you swapped jokes with - has now turned on you to the point where you've had to get the law involved through many terrifying days of court works. You've been living on the edge of your nerves and then when you log in to Facebook to let people know why you've been away, the first thing you see is that they are waiting there for you...

If this was a movie, you'd have the screeching violin moment right there, and you'd be screaming at them to get the police involved.
As it is, you're just sitting back and saying "Should have sorted that earlier"? Shouldn't the emphasis in a court case be for the victim and against the assailant?
Jackson broke the terms of her restraint and should be arrested.

This is not about some crazy ***** suing someone because she got spooked, this is about someone who has already gone through enough to make them file a restraining order having someone deliberately break it.
Fair enough, this I can agree with more then your pervious posts. I stll feel as though there are faults on both sides, because if said woman felt strongly enough to rid them of her life, she could have taken less.. drastic means(like getting a friend to log on Facebook and delete said person for her?). But you have a point, and we don't know all the details. I do, however, agree that Jackson should be punished, she broke a law, no way around that.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
People who have been victims of a crime often exhibit something called "fear" which stops them doing things that a normal person might just work out.
Yeah, like going out of the house or going to work. They fear direct contact more than indirect contact, because they don't want to be confronted by that person for fear of physical harm.

People who get spammed by email change emails, willingly. Facebook is no different, and easier to keep private.
If she was that scared, a friend or relative could delete/block the person for her. At the very least she should have let them know.
It is NOT that hard or complicated, even when you are afraid.

I have known people in these situations. They found ways to block/ignore these people too. It makes them happier in the long run. Don't preach to me about how bad it is for this person.
 

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I used to play Farmville everyday. And then it became annoying, a job to do everyday. So I stopped bothering. It's not addictive.

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ShadowKirby said:

"Did you poke that woman with the internet ?"
You just made my day!
 
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It is NOT that hard or complicated, even when you are afraid.
How do you know? Because I was always under the impression that, as a victim, you didn't have to change your life around the assailant. Especially when you'd have to remember every way they could of communicating with you and block them from that.

If Jackson phoned, mailed, waved or spoke to her, there would be no argument, even if it was a nice happy message. Why are you condemning this woman because she forgot (or couldn't face) removing a social networking site?
 

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Thank god I don't even have MSN, let alone this crap.

I suppose I have steam...but that hardly counts.

Hell, my life is great!
 

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Thank god I don't even have MSN, let alone this crap.

I suppose I have steam...but that hardly counts.

Hell, my life is great!
*poke*, Ha! Your life is now ruined because you forgot about the very site your using at the moment.
 

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ShadowKirby said:
Tom Goldman said:
The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.

"Did you poke that woman with the internet ?"
Revised:
 

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I've heard of peopel goign to extremes because of almost nothing.But this one taks the cake.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
How do you know? Because I was always under the impression that, as a victim, you didn't have to change your life around the assailant. Especially when you'd have to remember every way they could of communicating with you and block them from that.

If Jackson phoned, mailed, waved or spoke to her, there would be no argument, even if it was a nice happy message. Why are you condemning this woman because she forgot (or couldn't face) removing a social networking site?
As a victim, you DO change your life around the assailant. I've watched it happen, and it is far from pretty.
Many people are driven to change as many forms and ways of possibly communicating as possible, just to get away from the person hounding them. People with cell phones change numbers just on the off chance the person will bother them, some people do move to change location and address depending on how bad things were. They stop going to the spots they usually went to, just so they know they will have less of a chance of running into the person they fear. You shouldn't have to do those things, but people do. Some people just feel too violated or reminded to keep things the way they had been.
Not everyone does this, but it is not that uncommon.

I am condemning this person because unlike changing your phone or location, facebook is so easy to manage it is laughable.
Yes, this Shannon breached the contract and poked her, but this incident could have been easily prevented or just not have gone this far if they had been put on block when this fight started (unnamed had many chances to do so) or when she had been poked, put her on block then.
Here is also a reason this is stupid, if Shannon had no idea that unnamed never removed her from her friends list, and sent out a poke or invitation to everyone in her list by the 'select all' feature, she would still have gotten arrested. Even if she had no intention of bugging unnamed.
Last few times people have removed me from their friends lists, I never got an email or notification saying so.