Police Arrest Woman for Facebook Poke

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This is completely retarded. You know when you have no life when ...

When you get someone put in jail from a facebook poke. Christ sake. Where has the huamanity gone? Also Farmville is just another gay app that proves you have absolutely no life.
 

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The problem I have with this is that we as taxpayers need to pay for something like this to go to court. In reality I bet the whole thing comes down to some prosecutor trying to get his name in print and maybe make it into legal textbooks for helping establish a precedent, rather than this being even remotely reasonable.
do you even know what it takes to get a restraining order against someone? i can walk down to the court offices and say "hey i want a restraining order against John Doe", however the court will say "why do you need the order put in place?" if i offer anything besides the threat of my own well being, they will say no.

so this really isn't someone trying to become famous, maybe if you actually knew something about how the law works instead of spouting off about on some random tangent you could come up with a good argument

i do agree she could have ignored the person, however i think it was a more dastardly thing to NOT ignore them. simply put it teaches people restraint and i'm pretty sure the woman knew that the other person couldn't resist doing this and she got caught. however i do think the poker should have been the one to delete the lady, especially after she got the court order saying "no contact"

EmileeElectro said:
What the hell :/
I hope that other woman is fined for wasting police time.
so what you're saying is you'd like someone to stalk, harass and threaten you cause getting a restraining order is a waste of time?
 
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crypt-creature said:
As a victim, you DO change your life around the assailant. I've watched it happen, and it is far from pretty.
When it happens to you it's life-shattering.
Some people just feel too violated or reminded to keep things the way they had been.
Like not wanting to touch the computer?
I am condemning this person because unlike changing your phone or location, facebook is so easy to manage it is laughable.
Would you have laughed at one of your friends if they broke down in front of you saying that they couldn't do it?

If they've recovered yet, ask them what they think. Ask them if they think it's easy to change something they used to use to talk to that person. You might be very surprised at the answer you get.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
When it happens to you it's life-shattering.
I've done it. I just opted to not file a lawsuit, and block them from contacting me and asking my place of work to ban them from the store.
They happily agreed.

Like not wanting to touch the computer?
Then assuming the other person will delete you from their friends list, just like they might be assuming from you, seems like it might produce a problem, no?
In that case, bring it to the attention of someone who can help.

Would you have laughed at one of your friends if they broke down in front of you saying that they couldn't do it?

If they've recovered yet, ask them what they think. Ask them if they think it's easy to change something they used to use to talk to that person. You might be very surprised at the answer you get.
No, I wouldn't. And didn't, but did go through the options that were available to them and figure out what else can be done.

They have recovered. It isn't easy, but necessary. They didn't want to get rid of certain things, but their fear and wanting to cut contact from this person was enough to push them to do it.
Knowing they would not be bothered, instead of thinking they might not be bothered, sounded like a better trade off.
Do you think filing a restraining order is any easier?
 
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crypt-creature said:
I've done it. I just opted to not file a lawsuit, and block them from contacting me and asking my place of work to ban them from the store.
They happily agreed.
My six month order has just expired. This may be influencing me more.
Like not wanting to touch the computer?
Then assuming the other person will delete you from their friends list, just like they might be assuming from you, seems like it might produce a problem, no?
In that case, bring it to the attention of someone who can help.
A lot of the people using Facebook are computer newbs so wouldn't know how, some might just go into denial, some might not want to acknowledge it. Different people react differently.

They have recovered. It isn't easy, but necessary. They didn't want to get rid of certain things, but their fear and wanting to cut contact from this person was enough to push them to do it.
Sometimes fear can be debilitating as well as energising.
Do you think filing a restraining order is any easier?
Nope, I think it's perhaps one of the toughest things around. Something that some people don't appear to understand. I also think that if it's been granted, it should be upheld. If the poke does turn out to be accidental, then it's the Police's problem; but I know how much my heart still jumps at times when I think I might see a shadow of them.

Apologies if I've come across harsh, but it's quite close to my heart.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Chipperz said:
Surely if she hadn't been on Facebook, she wouldn't have noticed she'd been poked?
Usually it will send out a mail as well, imagine getting one in the morning saying "Creepy stalker has just poked you."
doing it because of a restraining order is pretty much mandatory.
Fine, all you have to do is return to the internet, where they could be waiting...watching to see if you remove them, with their all too-familiar avatar staring at you, waiting for you to make that first move which proves you were against them all along.

Like I say, I've still got one person on my friends list who I daren't remove. It's just easier to ignore them than have them chasing me again.
Um, if you remove them from the friend's list then you basically are doing a bandaid pull, a pinch and then over. You never have to see their face on your list again. If they are this big of a problem, then just completely remove yourself from them.

I've had issues with people I never want to see again. Hell, doing nothing is pretty much the same as doing something since if they are willing to stalk you, they will stalk you ANYWAY. I've had people track me to a location that I didn't even know the location of. If you're going to cut them out, do it. If they make a further move, report it.

While the OP sounds silly, I get the idea that a restraining order means no contact. I also know that it could have been prevented. Either way, look what happened. She was contacted. Leaving them on the list did nothing. Ergo your point comes only from your experience and not the woman in the OP. So your method only has a 50/50 success rate based on these two events so can it with how your idea is best. Seriously, it's aggravating since the woman's experience proves it doesn't work.

Lemme break it down this way. If a person wears a necklace of T bone steaks in the jungle and are attacked by a tiger, we will kill the tiger and call the person an idiot. If a person wears a T Shirt that says Rape Me Hard in a dark alleyway and gets raped, we will prosecute the rapist and call the victim an unfortunate idiot. If you can easily prevent a crime against yourself, do it. You aren't responsible for the wrongs of others but that doesn't discount a bit of common sense on your own part.

I have all sorts of empathy and sympathy for victims but I also quirk an eyebrow when I see something that should be obvious not being done to prevent the problem. So I blame the idiot for poking her and I question why she just didn't remove the person from the friendlist. I can do both because I have a functioning brain and have been in this situation. I just didn't need a restraining order despite how fucked up the situation was.
 
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DeathWyrmNexus said:
so can it with how your idea is best.
I never said my idea was the best. It's possibly the worst, but it's very tough to remove someone just in case they find out.

That could be why she hadn't done it. That's for the courts to find out.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
DeathWyrmNexus said:
so can it with how your idea is best.
I never said my idea was the best. It's possibly the worst, but it's very tough to remove someone just in case they find out.

That could be why she hadn't done it. That's for the courts to find out.
Considering how I have seen falsely based court action used against people, it is also just as possible that she falsified information for the restraining order and then let the police handle it when she was poked.

Both your projection on the situation and this made up scenario are equally possible. The funny thing is that I know how easy it is to convince a court to take false action. Just ask my mother when I was taken away for a few months over testimony of a woman who was pinching bruises into me in the bathroom in secret and then grandparents that she convinced that my mother was a whore when they lived four states away.

The court believed this woman and the grandparents just fine, with no evidence, and the woman making the claim was the person actually hurting me. Soooo, let's not assume how magical and perfect restraining orders/legal systems are and realize how ridiculous this story is at face value. Sure, there might be an honest to god horror story going on but it is equally possible that you are just projecting your fear onto this situation where it warrants neither your or my personal experience.

To summarize, your scenario is just as likely as the scenario that the victim is a ***** and set the other woman up. It is Schrodinger's scenario where both are possible until they aren't. XD
 
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DeathWyrmNexus said:
Sure, there might be an honest to god horror story going on but it is equally possible that you are just projecting your fear onto this situation where it warrants neither your or my personal experience.
Let's just kick out the internet humour for a moment and look at the facts here.

Jackson's guilty of a breech of a court order, so she was arrested.

That's it. I'm trying to explain why the victim might be in the right (Shock!), you're saying that a woman who's raped is an unfortunate idiot.

I'll let the jury decide that one as well.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
DeathWyrmNexus said:
Sure, there might be an honest to god horror story going on but it is equally possible that you are just projecting your fear onto this situation where it warrants neither your or my personal experience.
Let's just kick out the internet humour for a moment and look at the facts here.

Jackson's guilty of a breech of a court order, so she was arrested.

That's it. I'm trying to explain why the victim might be in the right (Shock!), you're saying that a woman who's raped is an unfortunate idiot.

I'll let the jury decide that one as well.
Way to take things out of context, slick. You seemed to miss the part where I said the rapist would be prosecuted. Any other strawmen to bring to bear? Seriously, you're projecting hard enough to do a Powerpoint. (credited to Yahtzee)

Also, we get the breech of court order. That was obvious and while you seem to think differently, the obvious doesn't usually need to be explained. We already know what a restraining order means and we also realize what breaking it means. However, we can still get a laugh at the oddity of how it has been broken.

So drop the care trolling. We understand that we will never care as hard as you do.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
My six month order has just expired. This may be influencing me more.
That would certainly make most people jittery. I hope it will not be necessary for you to file another one, I can't imagine the process being any less stressful a second time.

A lot of the people using Facebook are computer newbs so wouldn't know how, some might just go into denial, some might not want to acknowledge it. Different people react differently.
This is certainly true. With cases like this article cropping up more frequently, let us hope that when people start filing these orders that it will be asked/brought to their attention of the black and ignore features. Even better, having someone in the office that can show them how to do it immediately or do it for them.

Sometimes fear can be debilitating as well as energising.
A double-edged sword, unfortunately not every case will be caught in time to help address the little things before they become a big problem.

Nope, I think it's perhaps one of the toughest things around. Something that some people don't appear to understand. I also think that if it's been granted, it should be upheld. If the poke does turn out to be accidental, then it's the Police's problem; but I know how much my heart still jumps at times when I think I might see a shadow of them.

Apologies if I've come across harsh, but it's quite close to my heart.
Indeed it should be upheld to the best of everyones ability. There are also things that can never be taken into account because they may or may not happen, incidents on the internet are still a very new obstacle for the law. Plus, accidents do happen (I can't say if the things in the article might have been one, it's hard to say. I do think the incident going that far was a huge accident on every party involved though.) and it's hard to say when that really is or isn't the case.

I certainly hope your issues get resolved and you can move on soon, living a life like that is something no one deserves.
Just try to remember that fearing them gives them more power, which is what they want. Take the steps to make sure that they will not bug you, but try not to let them win by making you completely miserable at a the thought of them. Living a better life is a nice way to beat them, after all you don't need to fear someone to want to avoid them. Knowing it will be less of a hassle to just avoid them and it will make your life better+happier is a nice incentive.
Easier said than done, obviously.
 

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DeathWyrmNexus said:
Considering how I have seen falsely based court action used against people, it is also just as possible that she falsified information for the restraining order and then let the police handle it when she was poked.
it doesn't matter if it was falsely obtained, it's a done deal and the poker should have taken every single step to comply with it. so really there's no option here but to follow what the order says
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
DeathWyrmNexus said:
Considering how I have seen falsely based court action used against people, it is also just as possible that she falsified information for the restraining order and then let the police handle it when she was poked.
it doesn't matter if it was falsely obtained, it's a done deal and the poker should have taken every single step to comply with it. so really there's no option here but to follow what the order says
As stated many times before, that is obvious. We get it already. I am also saying that it was easily prevented, that is the humor we are finding in it. Also something that should be obvious...
 

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Oh and dear, you'd think that if you had a court order stopping the person communicating with you, you would stop and think hmm i'll cut all contact with them even facebook.
 

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Yikes. Lots of anger in this thread.

To be honest, I'm going to have to say that the poker got what she deserved. It's quite possible that the pokee completely forgot that she was friends on Facebook with the poker, or that the pokee stopped using Facebook (which, given that Facebook is a stalker's paradise, seems to be the more likely option) and just got an email about the poker poking her.

(Almost typed porking instead of poking, which would have had some unfortunate implications.)
 

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ShadowKirby said:
Tom Goldman said:
The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.

"Did you poke that woman with the internet ?"
This made me laugh really hard
 

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AvsJoe said:
If you don't know what FarmVille is, god bless you. Now pretend you never read the word and live a long, productive life.
Never have I heard better advice.
Stupid FarmVille, FarmTown, Restaurant City, Cafe World, and the like. Useless and addicting, a deadly combination.
you did not mention packrat I have lost a few friends to that one and I will never tread that ground

this just seems stupid and you do put up a good point about just deleting the friend this case should be closed and filed as pointless
 

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ShadowKirby said:
Tom Goldman said:
The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.

"Did you poke that woman with the internet ?"
Win Sauce
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