do you even know what it takes to get a restraining order against someone? i can walk down to the court offices and say "hey i want a restraining order against John Doe", however the court will say "why do you need the order put in place?" if i offer anything besides the threat of my own well being, they will say no.Therumancer said:The problem I have with this is that we as taxpayers need to pay for something like this to go to court. In reality I bet the whole thing comes down to some prosecutor trying to get his name in print and maybe make it into legal textbooks for helping establish a precedent, rather than this being even remotely reasonable.
so what you're saying is you'd like someone to stalk, harass and threaten you cause getting a restraining order is a waste of time?EmileeElectro said:What the hell :/
I hope that other woman is fined for wasting police time.
When it happens to you it's life-shattering.crypt-creature said:As a victim, you DO change your life around the assailant. I've watched it happen, and it is far from pretty.
Like not wanting to touch the computer?Some people just feel too violated or reminded to keep things the way they had been.
Would you have laughed at one of your friends if they broke down in front of you saying that they couldn't do it?I am condemning this person because unlike changing your phone or location, facebook is so easy to manage it is laughable.
I've done it. I just opted to not file a lawsuit, and block them from contacting me and asking my place of work to ban them from the store.The_root_of_all_evil said:When it happens to you it's life-shattering.
Then assuming the other person will delete you from their friends list, just like they might be assuming from you, seems like it might produce a problem, no?Like not wanting to touch the computer?
No, I wouldn't. And didn't, but did go through the options that were available to them and figure out what else can be done.Would you have laughed at one of your friends if they broke down in front of you saying that they couldn't do it?
If they've recovered yet, ask them what they think. Ask them if they think it's easy to change something they used to use to talk to that person. You might be very surprised at the answer you get.
My six month order has just expired. This may be influencing me more.crypt-creature said:I've done it. I just opted to not file a lawsuit, and block them from contacting me and asking my place of work to ban them from the store.
They happily agreed.
A lot of the people using Facebook are computer newbs so wouldn't know how, some might just go into denial, some might not want to acknowledge it. Different people react differently.Then assuming the other person will delete you from their friends list, just like they might be assuming from you, seems like it might produce a problem, no?Like not wanting to touch the computer?
In that case, bring it to the attention of someone who can help.
Sometimes fear can be debilitating as well as energising.They have recovered. It isn't easy, but necessary. They didn't want to get rid of certain things, but their fear and wanting to cut contact from this person was enough to push them to do it.
Nope, I think it's perhaps one of the toughest things around. Something that some people don't appear to understand. I also think that if it's been granted, it should be upheld. If the poke does turn out to be accidental, then it's the Police's problem; but I know how much my heart still jumps at times when I think I might see a shadow of them.Do you think filing a restraining order is any easier?
Um, if you remove them from the friend's list then you basically are doing a bandaid pull, a pinch and then over. You never have to see their face on your list again. If they are this big of a problem, then just completely remove yourself from them.The_root_of_all_evil said:Usually it will send out a mail as well, imagine getting one in the morning saying "Creepy stalker has just poked you."Chipperz said:Surely if she hadn't been on Facebook, she wouldn't have noticed she'd been poked?
Fine, all you have to do is return to the internet, where they could be waiting...watching to see if you remove them, with their all too-familiar avatar staring at you, waiting for you to make that first move which proves you were against them all along.doing it because of a restraining order is pretty much mandatory.
Like I say, I've still got one person on my friends list who I daren't remove. It's just easier to ignore them than have them chasing me again.
I never said my idea was the best. It's possibly the worst, but it's very tough to remove someone just in case they find out.DeathWyrmNexus said:so can it with how your idea is best.
Considering how I have seen falsely based court action used against people, it is also just as possible that she falsified information for the restraining order and then let the police handle it when she was poked.The_root_of_all_evil said:I never said my idea was the best. It's possibly the worst, but it's very tough to remove someone just in case they find out.DeathWyrmNexus said:so can it with how your idea is best.
That could be why she hadn't done it. That's for the courts to find out.
Let's just kick out the internet humour for a moment and look at the facts here.DeathWyrmNexus said:Sure, there might be an honest to god horror story going on but it is equally possible that you are just projecting your fear onto this situation where it warrants neither your or my personal experience.
Way to take things out of context, slick. You seemed to miss the part where I said the rapist would be prosecuted. Any other strawmen to bring to bear? Seriously, you're projecting hard enough to do a Powerpoint. (credited to Yahtzee)The_root_of_all_evil said:Let's just kick out the internet humour for a moment and look at the facts here.DeathWyrmNexus said:Sure, there might be an honest to god horror story going on but it is equally possible that you are just projecting your fear onto this situation where it warrants neither your or my personal experience.
Jackson's guilty of a breech of a court order, so she was arrested.
That's it. I'm trying to explain why the victim might be in the right (Shock!), you're saying that a woman who's raped is an unfortunate idiot.
I'll let the jury decide that one as well.
That would certainly make most people jittery. I hope it will not be necessary for you to file another one, I can't imagine the process being any less stressful a second time.The_root_of_all_evil said:My six month order has just expired. This may be influencing me more.
This is certainly true. With cases like this article cropping up more frequently, let us hope that when people start filing these orders that it will be asked/brought to their attention of the black and ignore features. Even better, having someone in the office that can show them how to do it immediately or do it for them.A lot of the people using Facebook are computer newbs so wouldn't know how, some might just go into denial, some might not want to acknowledge it. Different people react differently.
A double-edged sword, unfortunately not every case will be caught in time to help address the little things before they become a big problem.Sometimes fear can be debilitating as well as energising.
Indeed it should be upheld to the best of everyones ability. There are also things that can never be taken into account because they may or may not happen, incidents on the internet are still a very new obstacle for the law. Plus, accidents do happen (I can't say if the things in the article might have been one, it's hard to say. I do think the incident going that far was a huge accident on every party involved though.) and it's hard to say when that really is or isn't the case.Nope, I think it's perhaps one of the toughest things around. Something that some people don't appear to understand. I also think that if it's been granted, it should be upheld. If the poke does turn out to be accidental, then it's the Police's problem; but I know how much my heart still jumps at times when I think I might see a shadow of them.
Apologies if I've come across harsh, but it's quite close to my heart.
it doesn't matter if it was falsely obtained, it's a done deal and the poker should have taken every single step to comply with it. so really there's no option here but to follow what the order saysDeathWyrmNexus said:Considering how I have seen falsely based court action used against people, it is also just as possible that she falsified information for the restraining order and then let the police handle it when she was poked.
As stated many times before, that is obvious. We get it already. I am also saying that it was easily prevented, that is the humor we are finding in it. Also something that should be obvious...cleverlymadeup said:it doesn't matter if it was falsely obtained, it's a done deal and the poker should have taken every single step to comply with it. so really there's no option here but to follow what the order saysDeathWyrmNexus said:Considering how I have seen falsely based court action used against people, it is also just as possible that she falsified information for the restraining order and then let the police handle it when she was poked.
This made me laugh really hardShadowKirby said:Tom Goldman said:The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.
"Did you poke that woman with the internet ?"
you did not mention packrat I have lost a few friends to that one and I will never tread that groundAvsJoe said:Never have I heard better advice.If you don't know what FarmVille is, god bless you. Now pretend you never read the word and live a long, productive life.
Stupid FarmVille, FarmTown, Restaurant City, Cafe World, and the like. Useless and addicting, a deadly combination.
Win SauceShadowKirby said:Tom Goldman said:The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.
"Did you poke that woman with the internet ?"