Police said he died due to a car crash, then his family watches police beating and tasing him to death.

[lil devils x]

Louisiana Police Blamed a Black Man’s 2019 Death on a Car Crash. His Family Just Viewed Footage of Police Beating and Tasing Him Before He Died

"A video of a Black man being beaten by Louisiana police, kept away from the public for more than a year, was finally shown to his family this week.

The family of Ronald Greene, who died after a brutal encounter with Louisiana State Police, saw a “graphic” 30-minute video on Wednesday depicting what happened to Greene when he was arrested by officers in May 2019, attorney Lee Merritt told the Associated Press. Merritt told the outlet the video shows cops choking and beating Greene, repeatedly stunning him with Tasers and dragging him face-down on the pavement.

“The video was very difficult to watch. It’s one of those videos like George Floyd and even Ahmaud Arbery where it’s just so graphic,” Merritt said.

Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards was also on hand to watch the video.

Before Merritt’s description of the footage from police body cameras, little was known about what actually happened to Greene. Local and state officials have refused to release the video, citing ongoing investigations into the arrest. Initially, State Police blamed Greene’s death on injuries from a car crash after a high-speed chase. The crash report filed by police did not mention any use of force, nor did it state that Greene had actually been taken into custody.

What Merritt described is a brutal arrest that may have well caused Greene, a 49-year-old barber, his life. From the AP:

At one point, an officer is seen placing a foot on Greene “while another hogties him,” he said. One trooper can be heard calling Greene a “stupid son of a *****,” Merritt said, while another cautions that “we shouldn’t tase him any more.”
“Ronald immediately surrendered at his first contact with law enforcement. When the vehicle stopped, he put his hands up and said, ’I’m sorry,’” Merritt said. “His dying words were, ‘I’m sorry.’”

Along with the video, the AP also obtained a copy of the medical report from the incident showing that an emergency room doctor was skeptical of the police narrative.

“Does not add up,” wrote Dr. Omokhuale Omokhodion, who saw Greene when he arrived at Glenwood Regional Medical Center, already dead. According to the doctor, police had already told Greene’s family that he had “died on impact” after crashing his car into a tree, but Omokhodion noted that law enforcement gave “different versions” of the story of what happened. Eventually, police told Omokhodion that Greene “had been involved in a fight and struggle with them where he was tased three times.”

Greene arrived at the hospital on May 10 bruised and bloodied, with lacerations all over his face and head. The report also stated that two taser probes were still in Greene’s back when he was admitted.

The discrepancies in the medical report led Greene’s family to believe that State Police were covering up what actually happened to Greene. In September, they released images of his injuries, noting that his SUV did not sustain much damage in the allegedly fatal crash.

Then, earlier this month, the AP obtained a 27-second audio clip in which one of the six officers involved in Greene’s arrest, Master Trooper Chris Hollingsworth, bragged about beating him.

“I beat the ever-living fuck out of him,” Hollingsworth said in an apparent phone conversation with a colleague. The trooper added that cops “choked him and everything else” to try to subdue Greene, who he claimed was fighting back against officers.

“He was spitting blood everywhere and all of a sudden he just went limp,” said Hollingsworth. He died late September in a single-car crash, just hours after learning he was being fired for his part in Greene’s arrest.

No other troopers have been disciplined.

Greene’s family has filed a federal wrongful-death suit against the troopers. His death is also the subject of a federal civil rights investigation.

On Thursday, Gov. Edwards, a Democrat, told reporters that it would be “detrimental” to release video of Greene’s arrest to the public while an investigation is ongoing. He also refused to detail what he saw in the footage."

Louisiana Police Blamed a Black Man’s 2019 Death on a Car Crash. His Family Just Viewed Footage of Police Beating and Tasing Him Before He Died

A video of a Black man being beaten by Louisiana police, kept away from the public for more than a year, was finally shown to his family this week.

www.theroot.com

AP: Trooper’s mic records talk of beating, choking Ronald Greene

A 27-second audio clip was obtained by The Associated Press.

www.knoe.com

F.B.I. Investigates Louisiana Man’s Death After Police Chase (Published 2020)

The Louisiana State Police said Ronald Greene died in a crash after leading troopers on a high-speed chase. Over a year later, photos of his injuries have raised new questions about his death.

www.nytimes.com

Newly released footage of a Black man dying in police custody shows state troopers choking and beating him as he said 'I'm sorry,' lawyer says

Ronald Greene's family says the body camera footage contradicts initial police statements about his death.

www.insider.com

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Fucking hell.

Not sure i could watch the footage tbh, but it should be released. People should see the ugliness that is supposed to be protecting them, payed for by their own taxes. Wtf reason is there to employ these shitheads when they can't be trusted at all? They can't keep doing this.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

I'm sure it won't be long until someone comes along to tell us "he was no angel" and "he was a thug who had it coming".

 

[Houseman]

Not sure i could watch the footage tbh, but it should be released.

Are there any reasons why it shouldn't be released? The last paragraph of lil's post says that the Governor claimed it would be detrimental to release the video while an investigation is ongoing. Detrimental how?

 

[Worgen]

Are there any reasons why it shouldn't be released? The last paragraph of lil's post says that the Governor claimed it would be detrimental to release the video while an investigation is ongoing. Detrimental how?

Pretty much the only actual reason outside of attempting to cover it up so they could try and release it where it would fall through the cracks, would be that it would bias a potential jury. Of course that is assume somewhat good faith and not literally trying to cover it up.

 

[Seanchaidh]

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Yes, all cops.

 

[Agema]

Are there any reasons why it shouldn't be released?

Yes, so it doesn't spark a riot.

The last paragraph of lil's post says that the Governor claimed it would be detrimental to release the video while an investigation is ongoing. Detrimental how?

It's detrimental because it might spark a riot. I mean, that's not detrimental to the investigation, but it is something detrimental during the investigation.

 

[Trunkage]

I like how it's October but they're still investigating a case from 2019

Edit: What did he actually do?

 

[Agema]

I like how it's October but they're still investigating a case from 2019

Edit: What did he actually do?

Busted tail-light on his car, domestic violence, 2 counts of armed robbery, selling crack, owning child pornography, and eight counts of murder.

Okay, maybe not, but does it matter? The cops brutalised and killed him, so he's therefore obviously a wrong'un who deserved everything that was coming to him. That's just how it works.

 

[ObsidianJones]

"Blacks commit disproportionate amount of crime"

Who says?

"The Police"

The same police who are continually found lying, fudging numbers, making up crimes, trumping up charges, and making up stories about why they needed to commit so much violence upon one human?

"..."

Those police?

"It's a dangerous job"

You mean the job that isn't even in the top ten most dangerous jobs in the US?

"... Blacks commit disproportionate amount of crime, though..."

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People wonder why I never started my Police Training. Anyway, round... too many to keep count of this same exact scenario that has Blacks feeling like they are being hunted. Patience is gone. Rage seems to be the only thing left.

 

[Trunkage]

T1J did a video about how blacks being targeted by not about poverty. It's also about racism. What proof does he have? Stats and report from police department in the US

 

[Kwak]

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Yes, all cops.

Don't know, 'bastards' doesn't seem to convey the wilful inherent evil vileness and enjoyment of causing suffering and pain to others.
A bastard is just kind of a prick. Is is actually meant to stand for 'barbaric monsters'?

 

[Gordon_4]

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Yes, all cops.

I think the Australian version of that is ACAC.

Anyway so, unless this guy had an M60 in his hands I am struggling to figure out how they’re going to justify this one.

 

[ObsidianJones]

The Few posters here that normally try to defend or deflect aren't really posting here, so this is becoming somewhat of an echo chamber. One that's completely valid, because Holy Shit, you should be manadatory life sentences for beating a man to death and then lying about it no matter what. But still, we can only do so much with us just vocalizing the truth that this is to be hated and condemned.

So I thought this would be a good time to bring up Samuel Sinyangwe. Mr. Sinyangwe is a data scientist who left a potentially cushy life after Ferguson to work at combatting system racism with Data. And at best, what he finds is disheartening. But needed.

Activist, Data Scientist Samuel Sinyangwe Gives Advice to Harris Students

Upon arriving in Ferguson, Sinyangwe and other activists were initially dismissed by policy makers and the media for lacking the data to validate the police violence taking place in Missouri and across the country.

“The reason we didn’t have data wasn’t the fault of communities,” Sinyangwe said, noting that there was more federal government data available on annual rainfall in rural Missouri for the past 100 years than there was on the number of police shootings in the same area. Inconsistent self-reporting by local precincts with zero accountability resulted in a methodological fail.

In April 2015, a couple of months into the protests, Sinyangwe co-founded and launched Mapping Police Violence, which aggregates raw information in order to produce tangible data on police killings across the country each year. Data for the annual count is culled from crowdsourced databases, public records requests and searches across social media, obituaries, criminal records databases, police reports and other sources.

“The reason we launched this map was to convince the nation there was a national crisis," Sinyangwe said. “It may sound unfamiliar now, but back in 2015, there were a lot of people who believed there was a crisis in Baltimore or in St. Louis. But in white communities, they did not believe it was a systemic issue, but rather a series of isolated events.”

I think a lot of defenders of these actions do this, believe in isolated events. Or at least say they do to justify bias. Either way, it is admittedly hard to grasp. Merely because of the unbelievable dichotomy such notions present. In short, How can a few hundred cases of police brutality be labeled 'isolated events' instead of a disturbing reality? And what makes a few hundred cases of members of one race "committing crimes" (if you can even trust the data that there is even a crime for each arrest) supposedly indictive of the entire race?

Let's put it another way. A lot of these defenders on this very forum distrust the media.

Why Do Americans Distrust the Media?

Donald Trump, anti-elite sentiment, and the dark side of media abundance

www.theatlantic.com

These defenders will only value and like the sources they believe are fair and balanced... And who happen to share their political leanings, but that's a topic for another time. Most here in the forum and beyond will point out low lights in journalistic integrity as the very reason they can not trust anything the Media says.

... then if you can easily have that break of trust due to incidents of falsehoods and breaches of trust, why do you doggedly ignore all these incidents like what happened to the Greene family and say "Not all cops".

Not all Journalists.

Not all black people.

It's absolutely the same thing. But for Police, you have so much patience. For Journalists and Minorities? It's not to be found.

I eagerly await an convincing answer.

 

[Houseman]

"Blacks commit disproportionate amount of crime"

Who says?

"The Police"

The same police who are continually found lying, fudging numbers, making up crimes, trumping up charges, and making up stories about why they needed to commit so much violence upon one human?

"Blacks are disproportionately harmed by the police"

Who says?

"The Police..... oh wait, maybe I shouldn't try to call people out for using a bad source if I'm also using that same source. Sorry, my argument wasn't well thought out, and in my haste, I tripped over myself trying to score Gotcha points. I apologize."

 

[Silvanus]

"Blacks are disproportionately harmed by the police"

Who says?

Countless non-profits, NGOs and outreach organisations, as well as every robust study into the subject.

 

[Houseman]

Countless non-profits, NGOs and outreach organisations, as well as every robust study into the subject.

By "who says" I meant "where does the data come from?"

Are these organizations and journalists literally following around the police so that they can ascertain the ethnicity of the suspect? No, of course not.
They get the data from the police themselves.

The point is, the data for both claims: "blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime" and "blacks are disproportionately harmed" come from the same source: law enforcement agencies.

 

[ObsidianJones]

Countless non-profits, NGOs and outreach organisations, as well as every robust study into the subject.

You can also point to my second post, where I showed that Data scientists actually have to gather the real data to present it to people because as it was already stated, police by and large tend to do really poorly reporting their own misdeeds.

There’s truth in numbers in policing – until there isn’t | Brookings

Carl Suddler writes that to hold the police accountable for misconduct, data related to police violence must not only become more accessible, it must also become more reliable.

www.brookings.edu

“When we look at the history of policing,” Khalil Gibran Muhammad, professor of history, race, and public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School explained on a recent Democracy Now interview, “We have run out of options in terms of reform, in terms of thinking about what the police can do for themselves.” Data-centered reforms will not work because the police cannot be impartial collectors of data.

Certainly, a critical admission in the recent Executive Order on Safe Policing for Safe Communities is the lack of transparency. The President acknowledged the need to share information “concerning instances of excessive use of force related to law enforcement matters, [while] accounting for applicable privacy and due process rights.” But that is the problem. The police use “privacy” and “due process” as protective buffers that allow them to publish their own reports on their own terms. “For nearly three years,” according to Gay, “leadership at the city’s Health Department, Police Department and Medical Examiner’s Office knew the city was underreporting police-involved deaths, but said nothing.”

All you can do is point out what actually is happening. That's our only mission.

 

[Agema]

“The reason we launched this map was to convince the nation there was a national crisis," Sinyangwe said. “It may sound unfamiliar now, but back in 2015, there were a lot of people who believed there was a crisis in Baltimore or in St. Louis. But in white communities, they did not believe it was a systemic issue, but rather a series of isolated events.”

"It is truly unfortunate we've reached the ten thousandth isolated event of police brutality this year".

 

[Silvanus]

By "who says" I meant "where does the data come from?"

Are these organizations and journalists literally following around the police so that they can ascertain the ethnicity of the suspect? No, of course not.
They get the data from the police themselves.

....as well as other sources, such as hospital admissions, outreach workers, etc.

Of course, police have a motivation to understate this. So if anything, to accommodate, we should adjust upwards.