Hating everyone equally
- Apr 24, 2020
- United Kingdom
Welcome to adversarial politics as implemented by May. There are multiple scenarios of leaving the EU with radically different consequences. A lot of Leave voters wanted a economically beneficial and politically smooth Brexit but that's not realistic. So, what realistic implementation to pursue and sell to the electorate? May's plan was to sell 'red, white and blue Brexit', win a large majority in a snap election, tell the hardline Eurosceptics to go fuck themselves, and push whatever actual Brexit she wanted. And tell the Opposition to take a running jump but that's standard in British politics.Wakey87 said:Glad you know what we voted for because apparently we didn't because we were too stupid.evilthecat said:It is very clear that most people who voted for Brexit did not vote for a Brexit which might have negative consequences for them or their families, they voted for a Brexit which was going to be economically beneficial and politically smooth, and that is not what we are going to get.
We tried leaving 3 times with a deal and it was blocked at every turn, didn't matter what was on the table there was just no appetite in parliament to implement the result of the refurendum. The leave voters are at the end of their rope, and it's because of the unwillingness to accept we are actualy leaving in parliament is why we are crashing out.
But as we know, May lost the Tory majority yet she carried on as if her plan was working. Even after a third whipping where even the chairman of the European Research Group, Rees-Mogg, voted for the withdrawal agreement, the hardline Eurosceptics still told May to go fuck herself. The Tory party (and DUP alies) refused to vote its own agreement. Only then did May think to achieve consensus with the rest of Parliament but, by then, her authority was destroyed and talks were undermined by the potential party leadership candidates, particularly Johnson.
Adversarial politics: a system that only works when a party has a big enough majority to ignore its own extremists.
In case you continentals think trying to push an agreement without cross-party consensus is odd, we're British, goddammit! We don't do your ludicrous consensus building. The ruling party whips its own members, ignores the rest of Parliament, and that's the way we like it!