leave the animals. new planets means new life which we don't want to completely destroy. introducing humans to the is going to be bad enough, no need to do more damage just so we don't need to figure out which alien cow tastes best
Oops, my bad xDGiglameshSoulEater said:You mean uninhabitable, right?
Leave behind a civvie ship. Damn civvies.
I was looking for the person who would post this before I would. I found that person, and it was you. I would only add that interfering with a balanced biosphere is just asking for trouble. The time between rations running out, and new food usage starting would have to be filled with learning to love " or ."Avaholic03 said:Lose the "data" ship. If we get to an inhabitable planet, it should already contain it's own biosphere. Introducing a bunch of Earth species there would be stupid. We'll just have to learn to love the taste of or .
From popular demand, I fixed that part. Now they're taking frozen test subjects with them instead.arragonder said:you can fit the entire human genome in 750megs, assuming a billion species are on that ship each with a completely different genome using no form of compression you could fit that in 750 terabytes, that'd take a server cluster not a space ship.Soods said:DNA of one species would require unbelievably lot of room in a computer, and when you have the DNA of thousands of species, it's gonna take a lot of laptops.Jamieson 90 said:Why do we need a ship for the data and 1 person? wouldn't it reasonable to just put them on one of the other two ships?
Space is a big place, who knows what you can find there. Or what can find YOU there.Popadoo said:Why do we need the military? Are we fighting aliens? If the world has banded together to save the human race surely there wouldn't be need for wars!
As you said, IF we find a planet, it SHOULD have life... what if it doesnt? without the stores to create new life you are relying on finding a self sustainable eco system that wont mind a new top of the food chain... And what if we find a "close enough" planet that just needs some plants and animals to be habitable? I consider that a big risk when the other choice is a 4.3% population reduction.Avaholic03 said:Lose the "data" ship. If we get to an inhabitable planet, it should already contain it's own biosphere. Introducing a bunch of Earth species there would be stupid. We'll just have to learn to love the taste of or .
Military offers more than just guns, they also offer grunt work and security. Wherever you end up I'm certain there will be needed people for construction, farming, "pest" control, camp security, and many other manual labour intensive tasks.Soods said:Space is a big place, who knows what you can find there. Or what can find YOU there.Popadoo said:Why do we need the military? Are we fighting aliens? If the world has banded together to save the human race surely there wouldn't be need for wars!
There's no such thing as a "close enough" planet with no life on it. A complex biosphere doesn't just form overnight because you brought some seeds and animals with you. If nothing is growing on this hypothetical planet, there's probably a good reason for that (i.e. that it's uninhabitable). And terraforming such a planet would take decades at least.Kordie said:As you said, IF we find a planet, it SHOULD have life... what if it doesnt? without the stores to create new life you are relying on finding a self sustainable eco system that wont mind a new top of the food chain... And what if we find a "close enough" planet that just needs some plants and animals to be habitable? I consider that a big risk when the other choice is a 4.3% population reduction.
I think you are undervaluing how complex spontaneous life is. It is perfectly reasonable to foresee a young planet suitable for life that has not developed it yet, or a planet with life too early in its evolution to be farmable. Consider as well the drake equation, there are separate factors for planets that could support life, and those that eventually develop it. Currently, SETI uses around 0.33 as the value for planets that develop life (with other estimates around 0.13). Basically giving you a 1 in 3 chance that the planet has life of some form, and 0.01 as the rate of developing intelligent life.Avaholic03 said:There's no such thing as a "close enough" planet with no life on it. A complex biosphere doesn't just form overnight because you brought some seeds and animals with you. If nothing is growing on this hypothetical planet, there's probably a good reason for that (i.e. that it's uninhabitable). And terraforming such a planet would take decades at least.
at the current rate of technological advancement, however, one could make a case that a ship full of hard drives today may take up a much smaller space by 2357Soods said:DNA of one species would require unbelievably lot of room in a computer, and when you have the DNA of thousands of species, it's gonna take a lot of laptops.Jamieson 90 said:Why do we need a ship for the data and 1 person? wouldn't it reasonable to just put them on one of the other two ships?