It is simply ignorant NOT to believe in aliens when you consider the size of the universe. Now, aliens near earth I do not think has happened yet.
Poll: After the china-incident do tou believe in aliens?
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There is no way that aliens can't exist, because space is infinite. Multiply anything with infinity, and it becomes infinite.
How many planets have we found so far?
However, iif they're intelligent enough to travel space without dying of age and running out of fuel I can't see why they would circle our planet and watch from afar for years and years without making contact. We must be primitive compared to them, what would they gain from studying us? The only reason for UFO's to visit our planet is because it's on the same route as the place they're really going to. Which reminds me of The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, where planet Earth is destroyed to make an intergalactic freeway.
How many planets have we found so far?
1 planet with life among 453 known planets make a probability of 0.002% that there is life on the next planet, but multiply 0.002 with infinity, and the number of planets that have life becomes infinite.
However, iif they're intelligent enough to travel space without dying of age and running out of fuel I can't see why they would circle our planet and watch from afar for years and years without making contact. We must be primitive compared to them, what would they gain from studying us? The only reason for UFO's to visit our planet is because it's on the same route as the place they're really going to. Which reminds me of The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, where planet Earth is destroyed to make an intergalactic freeway.
If any psychopathic serial killers or PLA Black-Ops soldiers went missing in China at about the same time as the UFO appearance, you can bet it's just them doing their routine game-harvesting.Dags90 said:
On topic: it had a vaguely B-2 Stealth bomber shape, but I've never seen one that seemed to be made of pure light, and from other angles it looked like a flying Magic Schoolbus. Plus, it's got way too many running lights for practical use.
The universe isn't infinite.El Poncho said:
Where is your links to video? Where are the links to news articles? Besides all that inhumanly fast doesn't mean quantify the speed in any way. Those satellites in geosynchronous orbit are movie roughly 17,000-18,000 miles per hour. Some would consider that inhumanly fast.blobby218 said:
Besides I don't care what the Chinese government says it could very well have been a military experiment, or it could have not existed period. Claims like this have been made all over the world, the best ones have no evidence to back them up, likely cause it didn't happen like that in the first place.
Flawed means some part of it is incorrect, and outdated means that some part of it is incorrect because it uses outdated data that has changed.Cocamaster said:
Outdated is a specific type of flawed, if you want to split hairs fine, what part of the data has become outdated.
You know, I noticed that RIGHT after I posted it, I'm just unbelievably lazy.elvor0 said:
Still, I'm surprised your the first to notice it, I expected a flood of quotes.
Good job.
This is the type of thing I was talking about.CincoDeMayo said:
1st) Space may be infinite, but the physical Universe is not. There is a limited amount of matter and energy, meaning a limited amount of stars, planets and other celestial bodies. There?s no ?multiplying to infinity?.
2nd) You are committing a fallacy with your math. You are making the assumption that just because we know of 453 planets other than Earth then 1 in 454 must sustain life. That?s wrong for 2 reasons: a) you don?t know if any of those planes is currently sustaining primordial life, and b) this doesn?t preclude more planets being discovered that cannot sustain life.
You can?t extrapolate the current statistic to the entire universe. That would be like saying that one person in every four in the world own a car, because one in four in Canada do.
It's just bad Science.
Jesus, and I'm supposedly the one spliting hairs here...danpascooch said:
The EQUATION is outdated, because it doesn't consider ALL THE NECESSARY VARIABLES.
The current variables in the equation may as well be all correct, but the result IS NOT because it IS MISSING MANY MORE that were not included when the equation was defined in 1962.
And if you want to equate "outdated" with "flawed", be my guest but know that Merriam Webster dissagrees.
I believe that there might be aliens in the Universe, but given how big the Universe is (it's not infinite, but it is big), the chances of them even actually being able to come to us, or even notice we are here, is slim to none.
As for whether aliens have ever visited? No, unless no government knows they have. If governments can't even keep stupid little secrets from us, how do you expect them to keep "Aliens have visited us" away from us? Seriously? If you think they have, you're probably giving your government too much credit.
As for whether aliens have ever visited? No, unless no government knows they have. If governments can't even keep stupid little secrets from us, how do you expect them to keep "Aliens have visited us" away from us? Seriously? If you think they have, you're probably giving your government too much credit.
I've never doubted that there's other life out there somewhere in the Universe, or even intelligent life. What I doubt is the likelyhood that said life would ever visit us. If an extraterrestrial race did advance to the point of interstellar travel and somehow stumble across our insignificant little planet, which in an of itself extremely unlikely (just the stumbling across our planet part), they'd more than likely want to observe us without interfering so they wouldn't show themselves in such a obvious manner.
One of the listed definitions for "outdated" is "obsolete"Cocamaster said:
One of the listed definitions for "flawed" is "a defect or shortcoming"
If you don't think being OBSOLETE is a freaking SHORTCOMING then that's your problem with the English language (next you're going to argue that obsolete means "good" or something, right?), you guys can duke it out, but don't try to avoid my questions by attacking the words I use, because I know what I'm saying. I'm not the one splitting hairs, because I was on topic, you're the one who threw us on to an tangent over something utterly inconsequential (see: Splitting Hairs). I would like to get on topic if that's alright with you, and please next time just address the issue.
Fine, so give one example of what Drake's equation fails to account for, if it's Outdated (which apparently isn't a flaw or shortcoming of any kind, but a merit or something?) than what new knowledge has rendered it outdated? I'm not expecting you to be an expert, but a SINGLE somewhat specific example is the least anyone should be prepared to offer when they call something outdated, otherwise it's completely groundless.
I believe that, speaking statistically, there's almost guaranteed to be some sort of extraterrestrial life out there.
However, I believe they have better things to do than pull a Maverick on our cities, or to make patterns in our crops. I highly doubt they even know Earth exists. Here's a video that sums up my feelings.
However, I believe they have better things to do than pull a Maverick on our cities, or to make patterns in our crops. I highly doubt they even know Earth exists. Here's a video that sums up my feelings.
