Poll: After the china-incident do tou believe in aliens?

Birdmad

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I believe in the possibility of aliens and such... but, honestly? Not sure if I believe they have spaceships and such. Who said they had to look like / be as intelligent as humans (or even more intelligent)?
They can all be alien wolves or something XD
I bet there's alien bacteria! :p

Anyway... I don't mind if they do exist or not. I think that, if they do exist and are, in fact, more evolved than us, then they'll probably look at us, point and say "hey, more cute animals! Aren't they sweet?" - then go away.
Why'd they care about us?

If they are not as evolved as us..... then they don't have spaceships, so... why'd we care about them? o.õ
 

Quiet Stranger

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I believe in aliens but I highly doubt they would come here just to fly accross populated areas suspiciously.

I say it was a military experiment, China is a world power so it´s not hard to believe they could have made something that fitted the description of the U.F.O.
Also, U.F.O. stands for unidentified flying object, so a U.F.O. does not have to be an alien spaceship.

-Demented Teddy
End the thread right now, this man has it

but for me I don't believe that it was a alien spaceship
 

Buzz3092

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I believe that aliens exist but I highly doubt that humans have had any actual contact with them. The event in China could be a hoax, an experiment like the government is saying it is, an actual alien, or something nobody is thinking of. We have no way of knowing so I won't assume anything or let it change what I think about aliens.
 

Zenn3k

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If there were Aliens visiting the planet, you'd think they would have had enough of the "pop up in populated areas, only to disappear" fad and just moved on to saying "Hello, we are here, welcome to the galaxy" or something.

Or just invade.

Either way, they could make their presence fully known by now.
 

FireFox170

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Intelligent life is an inevitability in a universe as expansive as we believe ours is. In Evolution, when is it not an advantage to be smarter than the other animals?

However, despite the fact that Aliens likely exist, will we see them? Probably not.

I believe it was hawking that once said that any Alien species we were to encounter would likely be the kind that jumps from planet to plant, thus, they would want our stuff, we would fight over it, we would lose.

I don't want to encounter Aliens.
 

Cocamaster

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I take it no one here has ever heard of the Rare Earth Hypothesis.

The possibility for extraterrestrial life, specially the intelligent kind, is much, much smaller than most people realize.

For starters, the physical Universe is not infinite. Space might be, and the Universe IS expanding, but the Universe also has a finite amount of mass and energy. What exist now is all that is and will ever be. There are no new galaxies being born at the rim of eternity; no infinite probabilities.

Second, life in the Universe cannot be THAT old, when you put it in perspective. Metal-rich stars required for life also happen to be the youngest that exist today. Our Solar system is 4.5 billion years old, and the Milky Way is believed to be 13 billion years old, yet our solar system wasn?t ready to sustain life until 500 million years ago. Keep in mind our Galaxy is almost as old as the Universe itself.

The Drake Equation was invented in the 60s, long before most of the discoveries about how life evolved on earth were made, and we learned the unbelievable amount of variables that it required to sustain itself this long. One of the many things we know today is that only the areas between the arms of a galaxy's spiral, where the least amount of stars reside, are optimal for life; everywhere else is too toxic or radioactive.

So, in conclusion: life is very rare, and if it does exist somewhere else, it's probably no more advanced than us, and if it is, it's probably so far away we will never meet them.

For the record, odds for extraterrestrial life are still good, just not as good as most people claim, and certainly not "infinite".
 

Cocamaster

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FireFox170 said:
Intelligent life is an inevitability in a universe as expansive as we believe ours is. In Evolution, when is it not an advantage to be smarter than the other animals?
The development of our brain was a fluke; we are freaks of nature.
 

Danpascooch

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blobby218 said:
As most of you will now know there was a UFO that flew across china recently
Gee, I wonder what the OP's opinion on what it was is?

Way to state outlandish heresay as fact, +10 points.
 

StonkThis

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I believe there are alien life forms, but I doubt there are any visiting us, unless they're advanced as hell because the next solar system is faaaaaaar, and we've examined our solar system and haven't seen any intelligent lifeforms, including on earth. Ooooh, humanity burn.

That was stupid.
 

Danpascooch

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Cocamaster said:
I take it no one here has ever heard of the Rare Earth Hypothesis.

The possibility for extraterrestrial life, specially the intelligent kind, is much, much smaller than most people realize.

For starters, the physical Universe is not infinite. Space might be, and the Universe IS expanding, but the Universe also has a finite amount of mass and energy. What exist now is all that is and will ever be. There are no new galaxies being born at the rim of eternity; no infinite probabilities.

Second, life in the Universe cannot be THAT old, when you put it in perspective. Metal-rich stars required for life also happen to be the youngest that exist today. Our Solar system is 4.5 billion years old, and the Milky Way is believed to be 13 billion years old, yet our solar system wasn?t ready to sustain life until 500 million years ago. Keep in mind our Galaxy is almost as old as the Universe itself.

The Drake Equation was invented in the 60s, long before most of the discoveries about how life evolved on earth were made, and we learned the unbelievable amount of variables that it required to sustain itself this long. One of the many things we know today is that only the areas between the arms of a galaxy's spiral, where the least amount of stars reside, are optimal for life; everywhere else is too toxic or radioactive.

So, in conclusion: life is very rare, and if it does exist somewhere else, it's probably no more advanced than us, and if it is, it's probably so far away we will never meet them.

For the record, odds for extraterrestrial life are still good, just not as good as most people claim, and certainly not "infinite".
Why don't you post which variable of Drake's equation is flawed then?

OT: I believe in aliens, I do not believe that thing was a UFO
 

Danpascooch

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Check this out guys: http://www.youtube.com/user/Criticmizer

It's a long exposure of a plane, chill out everyone.
 

Macgyvercas

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I already believe in aliens. I'm waiting for the rest of the world to come to it's senses.
 

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El Poncho said:
It is kinda hard not to believe in Aliens. You can't possibly think in this infinite universe that we are the only planet with lifeforms on it?
OBJECTION!

I may be wrong, and the physics gods might brutally punish me for my blasphemy, but the universe is expanding.
In my interpretaion, this means:
1, The emptiness that is "space" is infinite.
2, The distance that matter and light have travelled to so far (thanks to ze Big Bang) is not infinite. It is a given distance from the core of the universe, so there is not an infinite chance for other intelligent aliens to develop (sine matter is not infinite).
Although it is still very, very high.
Edit: If I'm wrong, correct me.
Really, I'm interested in this science shit.
 

Cocamaster

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danpascooch said:
Why don't you post which variable of Drake's equation is flawed then?

OT: I believe in aliens, I do not believe that thing was a UFO
I didn't say any particular part of it was "flawed". I said it was invented when we didn't know even half about life and it's development as we do now. If anything, it is missing many important variables that make the final estimate much, much smaller.
 

Danpascooch

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Cocamaster said:
danpascooch said:
Why don't you post which variable of Drake's equation is flawed then?

OT: I believe in aliens, I do not believe that thing was a UFO
I didn't say any particular part of it was "flawed". I said it was invented when we didn't know even half about life and it's development as we do now. If anything, it is missing many important variables that make the final estimate much, much smaller.
Drake's equation is built into small independent variables that are multiplied, I'm asking which variable value is flawed due to outdated knowledge.

I can't really accept it's flawed without being even a little more specific.
 

Cocamaster

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danpascooch said:
Cocamaster said:
danpascooch said:
Why don't you post which variable of Drake's equation is flawed then?

OT: I believe in aliens, I do not believe that thing was a UFO
I didn't say any particular part of it was "flawed". I said it was invented when we didn't know even half about life and it's development as we do now. If anything, it is missing many important variables that make the final estimate much, much smaller.
Drake's equation is built into small independent variables that are multiplied, I'm asking which variable value is flawed due to outdated knowledge.

I can't really accept it's flawed without being even a little more specific.
You keep using the word "flawed". I'm not. I'm saying it's out dated.

If you can't see the difference, I'm not going to point it out for you.
 

Hawgh

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What chinese incident? Referring to something without adding a link is bad form.

However, I think it's unlikely that nothing is alive somewhere else in the universe, it's bloody huge.
 

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danpascooch said:
blobby218 said:
As most of you will now know there was a UFO that flew across china recently
Gee, I wonder what the OP's opinion on what it was is?

Way to state outlandish heresay as fact, +10 points.
Well he is actually right as it IS an UNIDENTIFIED Flying Object, regardless of whether or not its an alien.

And yes I've always believed in aliens, the odds of us being the only intelligent life in an infine universe are pretty much impossible.
 

Lunar Templar

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i believe we aren't alone in the universe, but do question why they wanna come to OUR dirt ball, we haven't been any further out then OUR moon, far as manned flights go, seems if they wanted to watch us, would be the 'shit' job given to the guy on the lowest rung of their ladder