Poll: Am I in the Wrong Here?

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xXAsherahXx said:
He always disrespects all that I own. My tv (for not being HD), my guitar, my guitar playing, my car, and much more. I do the same in return and so do all of our shared friends. It's been a running joke for 4 years.
... why exactly are you friends in the first place?
Maybe I'm just interpreting too much into the word 'disrespect' but I'd never disrespect any of my friends and neither would they me. Teasing and joking are a given but if you're disrepecting your friends, you're doing it wrong.

In any case, you're both dickwads.
He for his short fuse and exploding temper and you for behaving like fucking 5-year-old.
I mean, humping somebody's stuff? What are you? A teenager? (if you are... well, stop it)
 

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TJC said:
xXAsherahXx said:
He always disrespects all that I own. My tv (for not being HD), my guitar, my guitar playing, my car, and much more. I do the same in return and so do all of our shared friends. It's been a running joke for 4 years.
... why exactly are you friends in the first place?
Maybe I'm just interpreting too much into the word 'disrespect' but I'd never disrespect any of my friends and neither would they me. Teasing and joking are a given but if you're disrepecting your friends, you're doing it wrong.

In any case, you're both dickwads.
He for his short fuse and exploding temper and you for behaving like fucking 5-year-old.
I mean, humping somebody's stuff? What are you? A teenager? (if you are... well, stop it)
Sounds like you have a short fuse, and yes, I'm a teenager. A pretty juvenile one at that. For reasons look at the above post. We also usually have the same humor, but yesterday was apparently not the case. I agree though, we're both dicks. We're terrible people, I guess that's what makes it logical.
 

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I could understand not wanting for someone to touch something of value, but a GAMING CHAIR? I mean, really? Kicking someone out of your house because they touch your gaming chair? Even though he told you not to, he's still a psychotic. No, I don't think you are in the wrong. Technically yes, you are in the wrong since he said to not touch it, but not really in the eyes of the sane. :)
 

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xXAsherahXx said:
TJC said:
xXAsherahXx said:
He always disrespects all that I own. My tv (for not being HD), my guitar, my guitar playing, my car, and much more. I do the same in return and so do all of our shared friends. It's been a running joke for 4 years.
... why exactly are you friends in the first place?
Maybe I'm just interpreting too much into the word 'disrespect' but I'd never disrespect any of my friends and neither would they me. Teasing and joking are a given but if you're disrepecting your friends, you're doing it wrong.

In any case, you're both dickwads.
He for his short fuse and exploding temper and you for behaving like fucking 5-year-old.
I mean, humping somebody's stuff? What are you? A teenager? (if you are... well, stop it)
Sounds like you have a short fuse, and yes, I'm a teenager. A pretty juvenile one at that. For reasons look at the above post. We also usually have the same humor, but yesterday was apparently not the case. I agree though, we're both dicks. We're terrible people, I guess that's what makes it logical.
hrm...
if this was the first time in 4 years of friendship that he lashed out at you, although he should be used to your guys' humour than you can bet yo' ass that he has some shit going down you know nothing about and he redirected it at you. Better double-check on that.

Gawddamn whippersnappers everywhere >:C
 

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I don't see what the big deal about "disrespecting" stuff is as long as you're not breaking or defacing it. It's just stuff. It was kind of stupid for you to provoke him, but it's even more stupid of him to get pissed off about someone "disrespecting" his furniture. If you had taken a piss on the chair or something, he'd be justified, but if it was just a joking gesture he definitely overreacted.
 

Thyunda

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Sounds pretty normal amongst guys to behave like that - though totally out of order to react the way he did. Yes, people like to have their things respected, but why go out of your way to instruct somebody not to touch a chair? It's not fragile. It's not going to be damaged if somebody touches it. If you don't want somebody to sit in it, then sit in it first, or tell them not to sit in it. A big show of rubbing your crotch against the chair just sounds like a joke to me - it's the sort of thing my old friends would have done.

So yeah. Balls to anybody who says that you're deplorable for behaving in that way. That's how young men act. If you deny that, then you clearly don't know many men. So. Yeah. It's just a chair. God.
 

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You're both in the wrong as I see it. He asked you not to touch his stuff and you made it a point to touch it. That makes you wrong. You friend should not have overreacted and attacked you for just making contact with his gaming chair either. So that makes him wrong.
 

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That's what you would do. If they have been fine with this for four years don't you think it would be well established that doing something as trivial as air humping a chair is a light-hearted joke, rather than something that warrants an agressive tantrum?
It wasn't 'okay' to begin with. Disrespecting each others' stuff is still disrespecting each others' stuff. Just because it was well tolerated due to their ages doesn't vindicate their actions.

You only have one friend who disrespects your stuff (why he's your friend, I don't know) that you see rarely. The OP's attacker had 4-5 people all doing the same thing.

Plus, there's a huge difference between making a joke, and continuing the joke after being warned to stop.

Okay, unless the OP has noticed some telltale signs of this, I would say it's the responsibility of his friend to tell him what's not okay.
"Don't touch my gaming chair."

Uhh... that's a sign. In fact, that's a warning. The OP should've read that as, "Now's not the time to joke about my stuff."

He had 4 years to do that, and it's perfectly reasonable to say "hey, don't treat my stuff like that", sternly if necessary.
..."Don't touch my gaming chair."

THAT should have been the moment of truth, not 4 years later where hidden tension is built up (which seems to be your assumption of the case). Responding like that was perfectly uncalled for.
I'm not saying the OP's friend responded appropriately. I am saying that the OP's excuse, which you parrot, that "It was fine to do it before, why wasn't it fine then?" isn't an excuse.

The OP was clearly warned. It's like the Grizzly Man. Spent decades among bears, never had an issue. Got so used to being around them he stopped treating them as a normal person would. Then one ate him.

Do we make an excuse for him because he ignored that he was doing something most people consider stupid? No. We go, "Wow. Had to happen sometime."

Same thing here. The OP has spent 4 years in a group of friends who constantly gave the friend shit about his stuff. They got so used to it that they stopped thinking it could be insulting or offensive enough to provoke a significant response. Then one of them snapped.

I'm not making an excuse for the OP. He was clearly warned, and he chose to ignore the warning and continue - knowing his actions would provoke a response. He just didn't anticipate the magnitude of the response.
 

Nalbis

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You should have knocked him down for attacking you, and put a knife through his gaming chair.
 

SciMal

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Abandon4093 said:
You ever had any friends? Being able to rib each other over silly things is part of the social agreement we call friendship.
Sure I've had friends like that. I dropped them in a second the moment I got tired of their negative or self-centered attitudes all the time.

My remaining friends are very supportive of each other, and most of our ribbing is self-initiated to make everybody else aware it's okay at the time. If one of my friends says they're not feeling it, or asks us to stop, we stop and apologize if necessary.

It's called growing up.

I don't know how you could possibly have had any sort of close friendships and not have encountered banter. Do you just tiptoe on eggshells when you're friends are around? Unwilling to crack a joke incase someone takes it the wrong way.
Like I said, we're almost always supportive of each other instead of derogatory. Our jokes mostly center around our momentary fallacies or our work, not each other.

When we do crack jokes about each other, if we see we've affected the other person, we apologize.

Sounds pretty boring to me, I'd rather keep the banter I have with my close friends.
That's your choice. You make your social environment. If you want a bunch of friends saying what a crappy car you have, how their house is bigger, how your pay sucks, that their SO is better in the sack than yours, that you're getting fat and they're going bald, that you're a dimwit for not being able to figure out your new cell phone, etc. that's also your choice.

I choose not to be surrounded by people that are like that. It's surprisingly easy, and I've laughed harder and smiled more every single day with them than I did with others who took up all my time with their negative or self-centered attitudes.

Casually making light over our noticeable mannerisms over a pint. Or laughing about how someone seems to be thinning a little on top, or widening a little in the middle. It's all in good humour and none of us would trade it for anything else.

I imagine that's how the OP feels about his friends and how they jest with each other.
Good to hear. Tell me, if you're joking along and one of your mates asks you to seriously stop joking about his gut after a hard day at work, do you? Or do you think he's joking and continue prodding him until he leaves the pub and goes home?

'Cause if it's the second, you and the OP have something in common.

But no, please continue with your humourless posturing. You totally have the right to judge people for their levity. How dare they not treat social interaction as if it were a formal occasion.
This isn't a very funny topic to me, so why would I respond humorously? What's funny about it? A teenager rubbing his crotch on a chair? Nope, just immature. The friend overreacting? Nope, sounds like the kid has deeper issues. Maybe it's the irony that the OP and his friends have succumbed to the stereotypical male social interactions whilst concertedly ignoring their long-term implications and being too young to fully understand why things happened?

I suppose that's a little humorous in the "boys will be boys" mindset. Then again, that mindset doesn't end there. It always ends with, "eventually they learn not to do that and become men."

That's what I was pointing out. Despite being in high school - 16 or 17 years old, the OP and his group of friends are still going around rubbing their dicks on pieces of furniture to piss off the owner for shits 'n giggles.

I'm telling them to grow up, because last time I checked, grown men don't go around doing that. Particularly if their friend has asked them to lay off for a while.

That's all.
 

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Craorach said:
By "Gen's" do you mean Genitalia?

Cos that.. even pretending, is bloody disgusting.

You would be out of my home and out of my life within seconds, as would anyone who defended you in any remote manner.
:| Are you serious?

Wow.

You'd love my friends sooo much...
 

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Lol at this entire thread, has any male here got a circle of male friends other than the OP? It doesn't seem like they have. Crude sexual humor, although not my cup of tea is one of the cornerstones of guy to guy communication for most people, and if you really get pissed off about it or aren't used to it in society then you honestly are a bit of a recluse at the moment.

He shouldn't go bat shit crazy about it if it honest to god does bother him, but should talk to you in a serious tone to know it really does bother him, and I guess you being a decent person would respect that, you weren't to know he took it so seriously, it's a normal thing to do for friends to "piss each other off" in a joking way, and it really does surprise me that people in this forums don't know that.

People talking about "disrespecting each others stuff" as if serious crimes have gone on, how about a bit of a fucking joke between two friends not being treat like a court case. Fuck me.

SciMal said:
It's called growing up.
So ironic that you, not being able to accept any derogatory ribbing between friends are telling people to grow up. For me and my friends, taking the piss out of each other is literally to have a bit of banter, there's nothing self centered or negative out of it, we all have a laugh (including the target, which is anyone and everyone), if you're going to call anybody that does it immature and essentially douchebags then you clearly don't understand the purpose of it, which is just to laugh and wind down for a bit.
 

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I guess be the bigger man and deal with it? Also, how is this a wall of text? It actually scares me a bit to think that such a compact and to-the-point can be considered a wall by anyone Oo.
 

SciMal

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Abandon4093 said:
SciMal said:
And that entire mess could have been shortened to 'I think I'm a superior human being because your flavour of humour and levity doesn't appeal to me.'
Yeah, but then I wouldn't have gotten to be preachy and annoying about it.
 

Kyrinn

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Can we have a third option of ".....what did I just read?"
Seriously, that was odd.
 

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I guess be the bigger man and deal with it? Also, how is this a wall of text? It actually scares me a bit to think that such a compact and to-the-point can be considered a wall by anyone Oo.
I didn't think people would really care to read the whole thing, so I wrote that in. Am I going to jail? :p
 

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i would say that you were in the wrong, but i place more blame on your friend for throwing such a psychotic hissy fit. from this story, he sounds like an immature douche
 

SciMal

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Midgeamoo said:
So ironic that you, not being able to accept any derogatory ribbing between friends are telling people to grow up. For me and my friends, taking the piss out of each other is literally to have a bit of banter, there's nothing self centered or negative out of it, we all have a laugh (including the target, which is anyone and everyone), if you're going to call anybody that does it immature and essentially douchebags then you clearly don't understand the purpose of it, which is just to laugh and wind down for a bit.
"I think I'm a superior human being because your flavour of humor and levity doesn't appeal to me."

No, wait, that's not it... Let me re-state what I've meant:

I have personally chosen not to surround myself with friends who'd rather make fun of me/rib me/poke fun/etc. without my implicit permission, and have instead retained friends who joke about other stuff and are generally supportive rather than repeat all the shit that's going on or has happened. While I know you and Abandon interpret the 'ribbing' as good-natured and not inherently derogatory, I find that the constant identification of flaws - even in a joking manner - doesn't agree with my high-stress line of work.

I implicitly understand your preference for 'ribbing' as a way to release steam and feel closer to your friends via shared experience by exposing flaws which you all have a common thread with; i.e. - aging, work, and hobbies.

However, I also implicitly understand (or at least hope) that after a friend of yours has had a bit of a bad or difficult day and asks you to not make any jokes about him tonight, that you either respect him enough to do so or try to cheer him up via positive showings of support rather than ignore his sincere request and continue laughing at his expense.

This is in contrast to the OP, who - after experiencing first-hand the type of day his friend had - chose to ignore his friend asking him to temporarily stop his normal behavior and respect his things for a bit. After not stopping, as requested, the OP's friend retaliated - albeit in an immature and unnecessary fashion. After neither side had apologized (I assume, at least), the OP comes here and puts up a poll to validate his actions or vindicate his friend.

It is of my opinion that neither is correct. The friend clearly overreacted to the situation, and the OP clearly disregarded the friend's requests, purposefully provoking a response and receiving more than he bargained for in return.

Since I recall performing similar acts while I was in high-school, witnessed it first-hand with my brother while he was in high-school, and generally associate such being in high-school with being underdeveloped socially, emotionally, and physically - I made the statement that the OP and his friend should "grow up." It was my hope that by saying so, the OP would realize that "Grow up" is a common cue uttered by adults when the issue at hand is being misunderstood by both sides, and that in the adult world - a world purportedly filled with reason and understanding - it would be solved differently or never happen at all. With luck, it would prompt the OP to analyze the situation, figure out why events followed as they did, and determine a new rule or set of rules to prevent such a caustic course of action from reoccurring.

If my opinions are wrong, either because new information presents itself or something else arises, I will happily address my opinions and revise them if necessary.

I hope this post clears up any confusion, and let me apologize for my initial sardonic nature. It's my default for internet interactions, since I find people so rarely read what I wrote - preferring to read only what they want to read, or end up foregoing any sort of logic at all.
 

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xXAsherahXx said:
Let me describe my day a little bit. I woke up at 6:30 AM today in order to go to school and take a mock exam for AP Literature. Afterwards I was going to go to a friends house (who took the exam with me). Suddenly, his car battery died and we had to wait for my friend to arrive with jumper cables because he locked his in the trunk. I called a bunch of people for help and on the 4th try someone drove over. An hour later we all went to his house.

About 20 minutes into being there, my friend threw me and my other friend out because I touched his gaming chair. He did warn me not to do that, and in response I made the motions of rubbing my gens on the side just to mess with him. I did not touch it that time. Then, he screamed bloody murder for me to leave because I was disrespecting his stuff. He proceeded to attack me for a short period, but I just brushed it aside and that was that.

He always disrespects all that I own. My tv (for not being HD), my guitar, my guitar playing, my car, and much more. I do the same in return and so do all of our shared friends. It's been a running joke for 4 years.

I'm not particularly mad anymore since that happened hours ago, but I would like the above question answered.

Have I done anything horrible enough to provoke such a reaction or is my friend simply bat shit crazy?

Sorry about the wall o' text. Ask any questions if you need clarification although I don't predict many will care too much.
I'm not condoning what he did, but perhaps the stress of what had happened on the road caused him to snap.

In the spirit of Movie Bob:

PEOPLE.
ARE.
WEIRD.
 

Denamic

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xXAsherahXx said:
Psykoma said:
Your friend has mental problems.
Been friends with him since 2007 and nothing like that has ever happened. My other friend has known him longer by 2 years and still hasn't seen anything quite like that.
He's right.
That reaction, if what you said was the entire truth, is clearly indicative of mental issues.