Poll: Cell/Mobile Phone Cancer - What a Surprise.

[GonzoGamer]

It?s only a microwave transmitter/receiver. How can that be unhealthy, right?

Now before the reactionary bunch start flipping out on me because they refuse to believe they have brain cancer, relax, you probably don?t. Nobody is saying we all have to get rid of our phones. They?re just saying that you shouldn?t hold it directly against your head for whole conversations. Use an earpiece, speakerphone, or text.
Yet, we see that the CTIA (the united PR group for phone carriers-based in the US of course) is still trying to deny it because they?re afraid that people might use a few less mins. Or maybe they?re worried that the government will make them provide a free earpiece with every phone they sell.
We?re not angry that they?ve been lying to us the whole time. We?ve known for years. It?s pretty obvious when you look at how these devises work.
What I?m worried about are the less obvious dangers we?re exposed to.
The things we don?t know about.

So my first question is: did this announcement come as any kind of surprise to you?
And what other things are we exposed to that you think might have hidden dangers?

 

[Lilani]

How about providing a source so people know you aren't pulling this out of thin air? Like this one here, for example. [http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/05/31/who.cell.phones/index.html?hpt=he_t1]

In other news, I always figured it wasn't that GOOD for you. I hardly ever use mine for talking, but I might grab a headset to plug in just in case.

Also...I don't like your poll. I can see you're going for satire in the poll, but your topic post is going after a more serious tone. So just pick one and stick with it, otherwise it drags them both down.

 

[Vault101]

well we dont know for SURE

 

[Zenron]

I had to look at research about mobile phones causing cancer as a piece of coursework last year. The findings are simply too inconclusive because there are lots of studies and they all conclude different things.

If I was to make a reasoned decision from what I know, I would say that the radiation emitted by the cell phones is not in enough quantity to cause any significant genetic mutations even if you spend a lot of time on the phone. It's possible that it may cause cancer, but we don't know for fact.

What's your source on this matter anyway? I would like to see it.

 

[Jamboxdotcom]

well we dont know for SURE

This. Also, everything causes cancer. It would be easier to compile a list of things that are not carcinogenic than to list all things that are. Just use common sense, the dosage makes the poison, and all that.

 

[Catchy Slogan]

Everything increases the risk of cancer. Even sausages. So I don't really care anymore.

 

[cyber95]

I refuse to vote because the options for "I am surprised" or "No they don't" both are written in such a manner that voting for it is voting for "hurf durf i'm an idiot".

Gimme sources that have CONCLUSIVE evidence or gimme an option on the poll I'd be willing to use.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

I don't care. Seriously, what doesn't cause cancer these days? No really I want a list. I bet it'd be much shorter than the list of things that cause cancer.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

And? Cigarette companies denied smoking causing cancer. It's in their best interest to do so. Corporate just wants your money, it doesn't actually care about you.

 

[Eolon]

Well, my chain of thought was this one:

Please imagine a Venn Diagram with two large groups. One of them is representing people with mobile phones, and another one with cancer. There is a big chance that people with cancer have mobile phones.

So, what I where I want to get is: not every consequence(even if repeated several times) has the same cause, especially in cases like this one, where there is just too many variables to consider.

In conclusion, this theory is quite bullshit.

 

[Evil Moo]

I think the issue is less if it causes cancer, but more how much it increases the risk of getting it against your regular background radiation and daily exposure.

Really all this says from what I can gather is that the risk is increased by some amount above regular background levels, which you can pretty much guess from the fact that it is a source of microwaves and many people hold it next to their brains for extended periods of their lives. On the other hand the risk could be (and probably is given that the vast majority of mobile phone users do not seem to be spontaneously developing brain tumours) very much insignificant.

In any case it would indeed probably be better to wait for some more conclusive studies to be done before we all burn our phones in great sacrificial pits to appease the cancer Gods...

 

[TiefBlau]

1. "EVERYTHING CAUSES CANCER LOL"
No, it doesn't.
2. "CELL PHONES USE MICROWAVES LMAO"
No, they don't. Well, kinda. They emit electromagnetic waves that are close in wavelength to microwaves. Automatically assuming that this will do damage is like assuming that infrared or visible light will do damage, because those are electromagnetic waves too. Granted, they're closer in frequency, so that strengthens the risk in dealing with it.
3. "Studies are inconclusive. Rofl."
Eh, yeah, I guess you can say that. You could also say that the large corporations have a lot more to say. I'm not an expert on the subject, so I'm not gonna try to pretend I know. But the risk is certainly out there.

Valid alternative? Bluetooth technology, to some extent. The microwaves emitted my a bluetooth headset is much, much smaller than that of the cell phone itself. As a result, it's much safer to hold against your skull, I guess.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I refuse to vote because the options for "I am surprised" or "No they don't" both are written in such a manner that voting for it is voting for "hurf durf i'm an idiot".

Gimme sources that have CONCLUSIVE evidence or gimme an option on the poll I'd be willing to use.

Really, you guys need sources? It?s all over the news today. It was in every paper this morning. You really got to be burying your head really deep in the sand to miss it. Do a Google News search on ?cancer? and it?s the first thing that pops up.
Here, pick a source:
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=cancer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#client=safari&rls=en&q=cancer&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbm=nws&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wn&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=e3a82e8a0599a82a&biw=792&bih=143
I thought I was putting selections for anyone who is still in denial and doesn?t think they?re an idiot. The most common excuse I usually hear when someone is trying to deny the fact that an industry is poisoning them:
?I just assume they don't want their consumers to die.?
And that?s up on the poll. Then again, if you?re in denial AND you can?t tell which selection is least mocking then maybe you should just say "hurf durf i'm an idiot".

 

[GrimTuesday]

You know what else causes cancer? Being male. Yeah thats right, all males have prostate cancer its just a matter of when it shows itself.

Can't say that I'd be all that suprised provide you and science had more conclusive proof than has been presented in the past. As things stand now however there isn't any real conclusive proof.

 

[Wintermoot]

it,s bullcrap you can also get cancer from WALKING IN THE FUCKING SUN in other words if we start believing crap like this we might as well add a disclaimer along the lines of this: "warning living might cause cancer"

 

[GonzoGamer]

Valid alternative? Bluetooth technology, to some extent. The microwaves emitted my a bluetooth headset is much, much smaller than that of the cell phone itself. As a result, it's much safer to hold against your skull, I guess.

Bluetooth is actually even safer than that. It uses short wave radio waves and those are bombarding us all the time regardless. So even if those radio waves do cause cancer (which they don't), there would be nothing we could do about it anyway.
That's why I think the backlash is an overreaction. Nobody is saying that you need to give up your phone or get cancer.

 

[GonzoGamer]

it,s bullcrap you can also get cancer from WALKING IN THE FUCKING SUN in other words if we start believing crap like this we might as well add a disclaimer along the lines of this: "warning living might cause cancer"

Irrelevant post is irrelevant. Are you saying we're all fucked so we shouldn't take any preventative measures: sunscreen and earpieces. Or are you just in denial.
Yes. As our life expectancy grows so does our chances of getting cancer from microwaves as well as the sun, and other environmental elements like smoke. So does our chances of getting hit by a car, having a household accidental maiming, or being crapped on by a bird.
You must be a mathmatical genius.
Now go put on some sunscreen and play outside.

I just hope that all the people who are still in denial are wearing their phones in their front pockets as close as they can to their junk. With any luck, they can still hope to improve the gene pool.