Sylveria said:
omicron1 said:
Conservative stands up for conservative views, news at 11.
Honestly, has it really come to this? Forcing public acceptance or agreement to one side of an unresolved argument by boycotting anyone who disagrees?
It is not wrong to hold anti-homosexuality views, gentlemen. Nor is it wrong to express them. What, exactly, is the problem here?
Yep. It's also not wrong to hold Anti-Black, anti-christian, anti-jewish, anti-slavery anti-white, anti-male, anti-meat, anti-poor, anti-Omicron1, etc views. Hate is a good thing! Clearly, we need more of it. Maybe eventually we can have some sort of cleansing of the ethnic variety and get rid of all the groups we think are "wrong".
Also, there's no "forcing" here. He can hate gays all he wants, he has the legal right to do that. "Right" and "wrong" are subjective views. Clearly, you think gay-bashing is fine and probably have a special bat with a special name in case you come across one. You and him are allowed to hate gays until the cows come home. However, we as consumers are also allowed not to support his business because of his views. There's no forcing involved. Actions have consequences, you can't say "hey don't do that!" cause the actions have negative consequences.
'Cause everybody knows the only possible reasoning against your viewpoints is hate! Evil, evil alternating-kitty-and-goatee-stroking hate. You know, like those
nazis, right? We've got to be like them, 'cause we don't agree with you that homosexuality is hunky-dory (no pun intended).
News for ya: You're demonstrating more bigotry and hate right now than I. Bigotry against conservative ideals, against Christian values, and against those that support them.
More news for ya: Outside of such wonderful people (sarcasm intended) as Fred Phelps, very, very few Christians or Conservatives hate homosexuals. Or anyone else, for that matter. On the order of, say, 2-3%. The rest of us simply don't believe it's right. Same idea as with atheists - a small number of you want to kill religion and religious people off for good; the rest of you are mostly sane, and simply disagree. Doesn't make you haters. Doesn't make us haters.
So let me be perfectly clear: I have no problem with homosexuals. They can do whatever they want - so long as I don't have to support it, vote for it, have it taught to my children, or shut up about it lest I be branded a "homophobe" and social outcast. (Or arrested, as some Canadian pastors were shortly after "tolerance" became the law of the land) As long as you are willing to consider my views equal in value to yours (as in, whether or not they are right, they are perfectly legitimate views), I have no problem with your views.
The problem occurs when you begin to regard my views and opinions as inferior to yours, and attempt to remove them from the public sector - whether by ill-advised boycotts (often by the same people who spent hours a few weeks back ridiculing the anti-Orainbow movement) or by narrative and naming (EG the stupid, stupid "haters" rhetoric that seems to be the main tool in the entire Left's arsenal right now).
On the subject of forcing: What, exactly, do you think the point of a boycott is? To make your opinion known? No - to assemble in a large enough mass (in your case, the maximum group you could manage would likely be significantly less than half the standard audience of Chick-Fil-A) to affect change on a corporate level. In short, to force the company in question to agree with you - or at least, to act like they do.
And now: I have said my piece (introducing the perspective of the
other half of America), seen the (90% liberal) Escapist audience rant and rave about "that damn conservative" and his "evil views", and shall depart. Feel free to reinforce your sheltered viewpoint amongst yourselves.