Poll: Child leashes/harnesses
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I swore I would never do it, but you try taking a 3 year old, 2 year old, and a 1 year old out to the store (as a basically single parent, because your spouse is in the military), and when you don't have any family nearby or anyone that can babysit.
We don't always use it - it's rare - but when my oldest wants to run around and we're carrying a lot of other stuff, it is handy to keep her from getting away.
We don't always use it - it's rare - but when my oldest wants to run around and we're carrying a lot of other stuff, it is handy to keep her from getting away.
I know I might catch some sh*t for this, but I think having to put a leash on your kid is a sign of weakness or over-protectiveness on the part of the parent. Kids need boundaries and need to stay with their parent for safety reasons, sure, but they can be disciplined to obey and stay where the parent can see them. With that said, a leash really does seem like a lazy move on the part of the parent when, if it really is THAT bad of a problem, they could just as easily hire a babysitter.
I think we have found the root of your social problems.Erana said:
Anyways, I wasn't put on a leash, but then I wasn't a complete bastard.
;-; Meanie.Bulletinmybrain said:
Really, though, I'm talking about infants on leashes. At eight months, I locked my mother out of the house, (Both front and back doors) took down both of the child barriers at the top and bottom of the stairs, and proceeded to get a collection of toothbrushes from the countertops in the upstairs bathrooms.
The daycare people had to duct-tape me into my high chair just to slow me down. (I figured out masking tape in a week.)
I was a handful.
Only if the child who is a little shit and has a tendency to run into the road when out walking. Otherwise, no. Children aren't animals and they shouldn't be treat like animals.
Child leashes are useful, depending on the child. I would most likely only use them if my hypothetical child was to keep running off. I see children almost daily losing their parents and usually from the playground just outside my shop. It only takes a few seconds to look away before your child is gone.
I would use it as a safety measure and in now way do I find them demeaning. As the child gets older and starts to understand the concept of staying with their parents, then I don't think they are needed. Some children just won't need them at all, but others will. Come to think of it, I would probably use it as a tool of punishment. If they run off from me, I threated to strap their leash on their arm. It's more effective than demeaning I think.
I would use it as a safety measure and in now way do I find them demeaning. As the child gets older and starts to understand the concept of staying with their parents, then I don't think they are needed. Some children just won't need them at all, but others will. Come to think of it, I would probably use it as a tool of punishment. If they run off from me, I threated to strap their leash on their arm. It's more effective than demeaning I think.
Erana said:
I.E complete bastard.
You know, you seem like a pretty calm now in life but before?
People are strange.
Usefull, I had them when i was a kid, stopped me from killing myself by jumping off shit a few times.
There was a thing on The Simpsons once that explains what I think. "This leash demeans us both." I believe that was a thing a child said.
I work at a grocery store, and trust me, little kids + candy displays = ten minutes of cleaning up - two dollars profit.
We NEED those leashes.
We NEED those leashes.
The toddlers - 3 year olds I've seen on leashes at the mall looked pretty happy, and quite proud of their fuzzy monkey backpacks that happened to double as a harness. They got to walk around feeling free (freer than having to always hold hands, anyway) and the parents got to know exactly where their child was without hovering over them constantly.
Child harnesses seem ok to me as long as the child is young enough to not be embarrassed by the leash and it's used more as an extension of hand holding, rather than a dog leash or punishment. And the parents aren't abusive idiots, of course. The 8yo and wrist leash thing was going too far, I think. >_<
Reasonable protection is good. Treating your child like a stupid animal because you're a bad parent is not good. Simple.
Child harnesses seem ok to me as long as the child is young enough to not be embarrassed by the leash and it's used more as an extension of hand holding, rather than a dog leash or punishment. And the parents aren't abusive idiots, of course. The 8yo and wrist leash thing was going too far, I think. >_<
Reasonable protection is good. Treating your child like a stupid animal because you're a bad parent is not good. Simple.
I can see when they are sometimes necessary. For children with extreme cases of ADHD, some psychologists recommend phsycially holding down a child to calm them and keep them from harming themselves. A harness would allow the parents control and teach the child restraint in a non-harmful way. However, there are side effects of 'locking up' one's child, for the parent and child in question. Trust issues would appear and possibly phobia's on harnesses and leashes.
On a normal child, I would consider this dangerous. The type of harness is also a big topic, a simple cross the chest harness would cause the least pyhscial harm in my opinion.
Outside the house,[Edit: Unless the child has a disability{Mentally or Physically}] I DON'T see ANY need for ANY kind of restraint. If a parent requires a leash to watch their child while outside the house, then I would consider the parent unresponsible.
On a normal child, I would consider this dangerous. The type of harness is also a big topic, a simple cross the chest harness would cause the least pyhscial harm in my opinion.
Outside the house,[Edit: Unless the child has a disability{Mentally or Physically}] I DON'T see ANY need for ANY kind of restraint. If a parent requires a leash to watch their child while outside the house, then I would consider the parent unresponsible.
I have seen these before. One of my friends way back when had younger brother serverly autistic. He had a leash for going into large public places(malls, walking through my friend's middle school), and only then. I think it's terribly inhumane and lazy to put one on a perfectly natural child especially in just small places like a public park, or heaven forbid, around a house.
Well, I can't quite figure out what happened. I was a dreadful infant, but as a small child, I was the most cautious of anyone I knew. For example, the day care* staff showed us this movie to encourage dental health. I was horrified; these cavity demons came and kidnapped a child because he forgot to brush once. Since I knew that I had missed brushing teeth before, and had not been abuducted, I concluded that this was meant to scare people, which was what my mother had told me about the story, "Little Red Riding Hood." I was then put in the dilemma of whether dental maintenance had any truth behind it at all...Bulletinmybrain said:Erana said:
I.E complete bastard.
You know, you seem like a pretty calm now in life but before?
People are strange.
Apparently, I explained that to my mother at the age of three.
I guess the big change occurred when I learned about what fear was.
*My mother didn't leave me there that often, but she volunteered with my sister's kindergarten, and my father was never around, so...
I think they are needed in heavily crowded areas so as to solve many problems before they start. Disney theme parks should give these out for free upon entry. Solves any problems of your kid getting knocked over or kidnapped.