No, when truly confident, that voice isn't there.rutger5000 said:Doesn't being confident just mean that you ignore that annoying little voice that tells you you suck, no matter how hard it screams?
I get your point, I'm sorry the question was raised in a rude and insensitive way. I know quiet well that people are vulnerable to their surrounding. It takes strength to see yourself in a different light then those around you do, and sometimes it takes too much strength.Pariah87 said:I think everyone has the potential to be confident and outgoing, but we're very complex creatures and different things cause different reactions. When it comes to confidence, self esteem or even self respect, we don't chose to lower them, we are led to believe we are not worth as much as another human being.
We take our cues from the most important figures in our life at any given time, starting with our parents, then moving onto our peers as we get older. I've known incredibly overweight people, or ugly people who are incredibly confident, happy and have loads of friends. I have noticed these people have families who have always been supportive and have never made an issue out of things. Comments and bullying from others affect these people less because the core support is there, whatever the rest of the world may think, they have a group who loves them for who they are and doesn't want them to change.
Those with the least confidence (in my experience) are those who don't have this safety net to fall back on. It could be the wa you dress, your intelligence, your size, your sexual orientation, if you get chastised by the people who are supposed to love you regardless for it, what else is a young mind to think than there is something wrong with them.
I was always told by my dad that I wasn't good enough in a lot of ways. Particularly regarding my weight. When this gets reinforced by the outside word, say by rejection or being laughed at by others, it doesn't take long for you to believe that you really are worthless, because you can't measure up to a specific standard. You take out your frustration on yourself, hating yourself even more as a result. Every bad thing that happens is obviously because you're just a shit human being who can't do anything right.
To then go up to a girl and even talk to her, let alone ask her out, when you feel you represent the very worst of humankind, something that no one in their right mind would be happy with, becomes and impossibility. The same applies when going for a job, or in any sort of competition, you don't bother because you really, truely believe that everyone else is better than you.
In a room full of guys, I literally see myself as the worst. I honestly feel that a girl I like the look of would be better off with any one of them rather than me. To say "Man up and grow a pair" is ridiculous because to come round to having a normal view of yourself, years of accidental negative conditioning need to be broken. It can happen, of course it can, but it's not just a snap of the fingers thing.
That's the whole point I'm trying to make. For I think that pretending confidence does work! This is something I learned from personal experience. It needs to be combined with honesty, but pretending confidence really helped me in all kinds of situations.JaredXE said:In my personal belief, confidence and self-esteem only exist if you have any actual reason to be confident. Success breeds confidence and if you have no successes under your belt, then of course you feel like you will never accomplish anything.
Pretending confidence when you are really just a loser just doesn't work.
Make up your mind man, can you gain confidence or not?fedirko7 said:confidence isn't a choice, but something you're born with. if you lack it, you probably won't ever have it (with some exceptions). that said, man up and go do whatever it is you're talking about. come on, it can't be that hard.
I see sarcasm isn't your specialty. I'll be sure to put "/sarcasm" at the end from now on.moretimethansense said:Make up your mind man, can you gain confidence or not?fedirko7 said:confidence isn't a choice, but something you're born with. if you lack it, you probably won't ever have it (with some exceptions). that said, man up and go do whatever it is you're talking about. come on, it can't be that hard.
I say that you can build confidence over time, with sucsessful endevours, but I maintain you can't simply up and decide "I'm gonna be confident today!"
First of you make it sound easy to choose for confidence, that's not something I claimed. Choosing to be confident is damn hard, but for me a choice never the less.tahrey said:I have a feeling the question's been asked by someone who is naturally very confident and upbeat and can't understand why you wouldn't be, why you would "choose" to be unconfident or downbeat. Kind of like wondering why someone would "choose" to be gay or whatever.
There may be a touch of mental attitude and bravery in it, but there's also a whole lot of intrinsic nature and probably a good globbet of nurture in it. I used to have terrible confidence and depression issues, and though I'm a lot happier with my lot now and don't get complete, subconcious-level, freeze-up stagefright when having to expose myself to others' scrutiny (public speaking, interviews, asking someone out, etc), it's still a hell of a challenge sometimes. Particularly standing up to pushy folk. I seem to have been lumbered with a massively submissive, timid brain that's only had such things reinforced throughout childhood.
Luckily I was both not particularly best pleased with this situation, so eventually forced myself to overcome some of the fear (including somewhat abortive but still useful public speaking night classes), and got in with some better, less poisionous friends as I got older who helped (mostly unwittingly, but not always) build me up a bit. Like I say, it's still not brilliant, I can have trouble finding the guts to hold my own in a heated debate particularly when there are sensitive issues and/or very forthright, highly (over?) confident people on the other side, and kareoke is definitely out of the question unless I'm blind drunk, but it's improving. I have skills and abilities I have confidence and even pride in and friends, hobbies and a place of work with which I can exercise them, whilst trying to work around and not be too crippled by the things I'm worse at - some of which appear to actually have a clinically psychological basis after some testing. It's maybe finding that sense of self-worth, and some rhyme or reason to why it's not everything you'd wish it to be, coming to terms with it and realising it's no worse than most other people's human imperfections, that's the crucial bit.
One small part choice (mainly, the choice to do something about the self-destructive rut you're in, to rise above and make yourself better, which may require others' stimulus to give you the initial kick), one large part built-in awesomeness or crappiness which is either to your advantage, or is a disadvantage to be tackled.
Holy crap that started out as a "wat r u talkin abt l4m3r" weak-ass put down and got very philosophical far too quickly![]()
... I wasn't being sarcastic, I was pointing out that you just said you can't just get confidence, then immediatly say that the OP should "man up".fedirko7 said:I see sarcasm isn't your specialty. I'll be sure to put "/sarcasm" at the end from now on.moretimethansense said:Make up your mind man, can you gain confidence or not?fedirko7 said:confidence isn't a choice, but something you're born with. if you lack it, you probably won't ever have it (with some exceptions). that said, man up and go do whatever it is you're talking about. come on, it can't be that hard.
I say that you can build confidence over time, with sucsessful endevours, but I maintain you can't simply up and decide "I'm gonna be confident today!"