Poll: Could the Zerg/Borg/Tyranids/Reapers/Whatever take Fallout Earth?

The_Lost_King

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DRTJR said:
Certain groups could stand a chance, The Enclave, The Brotherhood of steel, the Boomers in a ground war.

Against the Zerg I'd say that the NCR, The Enclave, the BoS, the Boomers, the Great Khans, and other reality organized groups of the wastes have the advantage.

Have the Borg ever fought conventional weaponry? if so I still give the Enclave, and The BoS the advantage.

Tyranids would wipe the floor with the wastelands.

Reapers have the staggering numbers and several methods of collecting, The Bos, and the Enclave could stave off the the collectors but the BoS, the Enclave, NCR, etc. only have so many pre war weapons to use so advantage Reapers.

Also there might be Vaults that survive regardless so advantage vault dwellers everywhere.
They couldn't stave off the reapers for a second because the Reapers have lasers that aren't lasers but act like them and death claw husks and cazador husks. Plus they have no fleets. I don't know anything about the other races. Well I know the zerg and I don't think the wasteland could stand against them either. I was about to say that the reapers wouldn't incade the wasteland then I remembered that in fallout3 there was an android... that rebelled against his master... Yup they are fucked.
 

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rhizhim said:
the real question is:
why the hell would they do that?

its like picking up a big stinking turd with your bare hands and squeezing it.

and don't you dare to say: 'what about an army of intergalactic bear grylls clones?'

it does not count!
the reapers would invade because they made androids that rebelled against their masters. God what a stupid solution.
 

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KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life said:
Something happens that causes one of these unstoppable, unfeeling, all-consuming alien genocide machines to line their sights upon Fallout Earth, circa 2277. Whatever it is, be it the Scenic Overlooks, the porn, the radio stations, that has caused this race of unknowable horrors to want the Vault Boy dead, the monsters are not passing the planet up due to the environment or sparse population.

But, they are playing by their own rules. The one common trait among most of these kind of villains is that they want the fauna dead, not the planet. So, while most of them are more than capable of destroying the planet, they're simply not going to do it. Could the disparate, hardened, survivalists in North America avoid the invaders until they die or leave?

And if you think these listed creatures couldn't cut it, but another could, feel free to mention them.


EDIT: The Fallout Option should say, "No, Fallout's Crapsack World would win"
The Borg would likely ignore the Fallout universe, as by most of the canon I know they're only interested in useful technological uniqueness. Fallout doesn't have enough tech to warrant anything other than a cursory look. Same goes for the Zerg, as they usually only assimilate new species that can actually be of use (ie turning the screamer species into mutalisks), and most of the Fallout universe contains things that are simply too genetically corrupted to be of use.

The Tyranids however would gobble that shit up like popcorn, as all they care about is biomass. Doesn't matter how corrupt or technologically backwards it is, the Hive Mind would have the whole planet stripped to the literal bone within a month, with the few scattered forces on it not even registering as a speed-bump.

Though to be honest, if we're talking about a simple "who would win" scenario, any of the three species would hand the Fallout world it's butt on a platter. The Post-Apocalypse isn't really known for strong military strength.
 

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Yeah the last post beast me to it. The Borg COULD, surely... but would they? I can;t imagine the GECK is enough incentive for the Borg to even bother.

Similarly, the Tyranids live to consume, not conquer... I'm not sure there's enough left of Earth for them to bother with it, either, especially since there are no other nearby planets with edible matter for them. It would be a waste of time.

The Reapers, sure, since their aim is to destroy ALL organics. If the entire might of the Alliance Fleet has trouble taking down a single reaper, I'm not sure all the mini-nukes you can find in Fallout are going to be enough.
 

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The only asset that Fallout Earth has is the vaults. They could run for the vaults and hope that the invaders leave again. Not very heroic but it might work in some cases. The 'nids are known to leave when all ressources have been exploited right?

So run for the vaults, watch 1960s TV shows for 100 years, then try to rebuild an even more destroyed version of Earth.
 

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Wow, my friend and I were having a conversation about how my fallout 3 Lone Wanderer would beat his Mass Effect 1 Shepard. Sorry fallout world. Only the Courier, Lone Wanderer, Fallout 1 and 2...guy, and there companions would survive.
 
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The Heik said:
KAPTAINmORGANnWo4life said:
Something happens that causes one of these unstoppable, unfeeling, all-consuming alien genocide machines to line their sights upon Fallout Earth, circa 2277. Whatever it is, be it the Scenic Overlooks, the porn, the radio stations, that has caused this race of unknowable horrors to want the Vault Boy dead, the monsters are not passing the planet up due to the environment or sparse population.

But, they are playing by their own rules. The one common trait among most of these kind of villains is that they want the fauna dead, not the planet. So, while most of them are more than capable of destroying the planet, they're simply not going to do it. Could the disparate, hardened, survivalists in North America avoid the invaders until they die or leave?

And if you think these listed creatures couldn't cut it, but another could, feel free to mention them.


EDIT: The Fallout Option should say, "No, Fallout's Crapsack World would win"
The Borg would likely ignore the Fallout universe, as by most of the canon I know they're only interested in useful technological uniqueness. Fallout doesn't have enough tech to warrant anything other than a cursory look. Same goes for the Zerg, as they usually only assimilate new species that can actually be of use (ie turning the screamer species into mutalisks), and most of the Fallout universe contains things that are simply too genetically corrupted to be of use.

The Tyranids however would gobble that shit up like popcorn, as all they care about is biomass. Doesn't matter how corrupt or technologically backwards it is, the Hive Mind would have the whole planet stripped to the literal bone within a month, with the few scattered forces on it not even registering as a speed-bump.

Though to be honest, if we're talking about a simple "who would win" scenario, any of the three species would hand the Fallout world it's butt on a platter. The Post-Apocalypse isn't really known for strong military strength.

My premise is that, for whatever reason, the creatures are in it for the long-haul, so they're going to hit Fallout no matter what, using the strategy we've come to know that they use.

And, it might be a hypothetical non-serious question, but I don't think people are giving the state of affairs in Fallout enough credit. These things routinely smash standing armies that fight them head on, but have been defeated/repelled by inferior foes due to the tactics common in Fallout.

But, hey, it is just an opinion poll, I'm not trying to ruffle feathers.
 

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The question is: Why in the hell would they want to? There is a small, irradiated, and technologically stagnant population living on a world that has depleted or destroyed the majority of any useful natural resources. Fallout's crapsack world isn't a challenge, a prize, or useful to an advanced alien species.
 

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Where's the 'apocalyptic clusterfuck' option? I know little about the Zerg and less about the Borg, but if they're anything like the Nids or Reapers then Fallout Earth wouldn't stand a snowball's chance against ANY of these races. The Nids are literally numberless. They would never stop attacking no matter how many were killed, and they have giant monsters that would terrify anything from Fallout. The Reapers were large and advanced enough that just one Reaper gave an entire fleet of ships with much better gear than any Fallout vehicle a run for its money. The only chance that the natives of the Wasteland would have against a fleet is if the Reapers looked at them and said "What, those monkeys? Nah, we'll get them next cycle."

In fact, it'd be a fair bet that humanity would die out long before the next cycle if they'd already screwed themselves over that badly.

Bostur said:
The only asset that Fallout Earth has is the vaults. They could run for the vaults and hope that the invaders leave again. Not very heroic but it might work in some cases. The 'nids are known to leave when all ressources have been exploited right?

So run for the vaults, watch 1960s TV shows for 100 years, then try to rebuild an even more destroyed version of Earth.
Even that wouldn't work if it was tyranids. When they roll in, they strip away the entire biosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere. When they leave the planet, it's nothing but a dead, scoured rock. Even if the inhabitants managed to hide in the Vaults, when they came back to the surface, they'd find themselves in an environment as lethal as the surface of the moon. No food to eat, nor water to drink, nor air to breathe.
 

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I think we are neglecting something
Fallout children are the one unstoppable force in this equation
 

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Pretty much everything could rule over any fallout world. It takes Ages to organize any kind of fighting Force. The Laser and Plasmaweapons could be dangerous to some Reapers, who have massive kinetic Barriers which will do very little against energy Weapons. But you'll need a million Liberty Primes to kill the Reapers. Plasma Rifles wont do much and the one Mothership zeta over DC wont be much of a problem for a Reaper Fleet.
The Guns in the different Wastelands could be annoying to the Husks, pretty much everyone has Guns. But most of them wont kill a Husk since most weapons are pathetically weak and/or in bad repair. People who do have halfway decent Guns would be the Brotherhood of Steel and they wont stand much Chance against all those Husks. And maybe they'll get indoctrinated, so then we'd have Husks in Power Armor.
Deathclaws would throw themselves at Husks and be eventually killed before they can be indoctrinated. They'd cut through the Husks like Butter, but there are near infinite Numbers of them.

Zerg wouldn't have much of a Problem either. They can set up Shop somewhere remote and until they get discovered they'll have a big Base. Brotherhood of Steel and anyone in Power Armor would be nearly as much of a Threat then a Space Marine. Who will have Power Armor and a Weapon slighty more advanded then any of the Tin Men. Deathclaws would be the Bane of Zerglings, but Ultralisks will cut them up like nothing.
 

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Any of them COULD take over the post-apocalyptic Earth, but why would any of them WANT to? It's all...explodey. And radioactive. And filled with Cazadores and Deathclaws. Just about the only things they'd be interested in are Mr House's tech and the Big MT.
 

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Well, if the Zerg were to land on earth, in any Fallout game, the planet would be covered with creep in a mater of hours.
And this is not something a single lone wanderer or courier can do something about.
They'll be out of ammo pretty quickly.
And with barely any factories running, unlike before the bombs fell. Well, they're in a deep pile of shit and the Zerg drop even more shit on top of that.

Sure, they've got some more advanced weapons than we have now, but the supply can't keep up.
In any alien invasion, of any species, unless it's a species which goes extinct completely if you juts kill one of them or it can't handle the earth's atmosphere or something, the human race is doomed.
The world would end again.
 

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I am afraid I do not know enough about the Tyranids to make an accurate judgement. I know the Zerg are essentially based off them, so that makes them ultra badass, buy thats about it. I'm gonna say the Zerg are the most frightening of these 4 just because it is always bettering itself using the biology of it's enemies. The Geth are weaksauce Borg, and the Borg are seriously badass.

As for survival chance, the Fallout Earth is pretty lame compared to others. Starcraft Earth is a united planet with awesome tech and inter-galactic travel. Mass Effect Earth is like Starcraft Earth but has tech that is more silly. And then there is Star Trek Earth which makes them all look like shit; except Warhammer Earth which is essentially as badass as Humanity can ever hope to be.

So, I seriously doubt Fallout Earth would be able to hold off any of these. Mayyyybe the Geth, but the Geth are pretty weaksauce.
 

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Easier to list what fictional alien threats would NOT be able to take on the earth of Fallout:
1. the aliens from Signs (finally a good use for all that poluted water)
2. E.T. unless it's the atari 2600 version
 

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Madman123456 said:
Pretty much everything could rule over any fallout world. It takes Ages to organize any kind of fighting Force. The Laser and Plasmaweapons could be dangerous to some Reapers, who have massive kinetic Barriers which will do very little against energy Weapons. But you'll need a million Liberty Primes to kill the Reapers. Plasma Rifles wont do much and the one Mothership zeta over DC wont be much of a problem for a Reaper Fleet.
The Guns in the different Wastelands could be annoying to the Husks, pretty much everyone has Guns. But most of them wont kill a Husk since most weapons are pathetically weak and/or in bad repair. People who do have halfway decent Guns would be the Brotherhood of Steel and they wont stand much Chance against all those Husks. And maybe they'll get indoctrinated, so then we'd have Husks in Power Armor.
Deathclaws would throw themselves at Husks and be eventually killed before they can be indoctrinated. They'd cut through the Husks like Butter, but there are near infinite Numbers of them.

Zerg wouldn't have much of a Problem either. They can set up Shop somewhere remote and until they get discovered they'll have a big Base. Brotherhood of Steel and anyone in Power Armor would be nearly as much of a Threat then a Space Marine. Who will have Power Armor and a Weapon slighty more advanded then any of the Tin Men. Deathclaws would be the Bane of Zerglings, but Ultralisks will cut them up like nothing.
There isn't an infinite amount of Husks, there are only however many husks that the reapers can create using the life available at the time. You also forgot about House's army, those robots would be able to put up a good fight against the Zerg or the Borg. In fact if I remember right the Borg don't have any real weapons except their ability to assimilate, and their adapting energy shields and those won't do anything against House's army. Supermutants will be able to help hold off the larger Zerg along with Deathclaws and some of the other large creatures. Those crazy baddies from Dead Money might be able to put up a resistance as well.
 

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I say this as a big fan of Fallout, but -

Pretty much ANY of those races would be able to take Fallout earth. Fallout earth is fucked. It's not like there would be anything significant in the form of resistance. A tiny populace struggling with radiation poisoning and teetering on the brink of constant starvation and dehydration, armed with pipe wrenches and homemade guns whose ammo is powered by pig shit.

They'd get steamrollered in a heartbeat.

That being said, it's not like the planet would be especially attractive to any of those invading races. It's a near-dead irradiated shithole. It's the planetary equivalent of a truckstop egg salad sandwich. Sure it might technically provide nutrition, but that still doesn't mean eating it is a good idea.