i'd take creative criticism over cynicism, which they were doing, basically telling me the flaws in it and i'd improve it if i added a character creator, moral choices and being able to pick sides. It isn't what i had in mind for the game.Woodsey said:
Poll: Critics are horrible.
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This is a stupid topic and I hate you. If you can't listen to criticism objectively you're a child and you should be treated as such. Is all criticism good? No. But you should quit acting like a crybaby ***** every time someone disagrees with you.
I never take criticism personally, whatever it is, as long as it's constructive, I like to take it all on board, whether I agree with it or not, then maybe use it to improve.
Now if someone is just straight up saying 'No, you can't/No, you're not good enough', that fucks me off, it's alright though because that sort of thing just spurs me on.
Now if someone is just straight up saying 'No, you can't/No, you're not good enough', that fucks me off, it's alright though because that sort of thing just spurs me on.
I don't mind criticism as long as it is relevant to the topic at hand. For example, I dislike the critics who want online multiplayer in every game out nowadays. Seriously, why does Mass Effect [http://meforums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=527659&forum=104] need to have co-op multiplayer?
EspirituExterminatus said:I am a chef. So obviously yes. Mostly these people are called Waitresses and I respond by pointing out that they have no training, no qualifications, no skills in anything hence why they are carrying plates for a living.
What really pisses me off is idiots who claim they are just giving "constructive criticism" as though that gives them licence to say whatever they want as long as they claim its constructive.
On a side note. A wiccan? Really? Tell the dopey palm reading slapper to go practice fucking with her tea leaves or whatever it is those idiots do.
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nicely said
Well maybe it wasn't.spartan773 said:
I mean, let's be honest here: People can be overly critical about a lot of things, but sometimes people have flat out bad ideas. I think the Darwin awards are a perfect example of that. If someone came up to me and said: "I've got an idea for a novel where the main character is a piece of broccoli and the whole book is his inner monologue while being cooked, and it'll consist of pages of 'AAAAUUUUUAAAUAUAAAHH!!!' as he gets boiled." I would say: "That's a stupid idea"
They might think it's fantastic, but it's not.
I don't know your idea, but sometimes we all get bad ideas. Heck, I tried writing a story based on my play-through of Baldur's Gate. It all but fell through, and is just sitting there now. Simply: It was a bad idea. The writing didn't come out well, the scope was far far too large for someone like myself, and it failed. Lesson learned.
Sometimes we've got to know when we've got a bad idea on our hands.
Then again, your idea could be fine and they could be jerks.
I don't know.
i'm going with your last idea. now my idea may have been done, but it's my idea and i like it.Baby Tea said:
Having been on the staff for a writing magazine, I can tell you that even when advice or criticism is bad, it's still something to consider. Critics aren't horrible because occasionally they have bad ideas. All people will have advice and you should take all of it into consideration, even if consideration is "Let me think about it...no I don't think so." Really, you should've responded by criticising THEIR ideas and seeing how they felt about it. Because based on their attitude I'm sure they would respond with "NO MY IDEAS ARE PERFECT".
That said, a rule of thumb when handling or giving critique, is that you never critique by saying a person should add or take away huge aspects of an idea. Unless an idea is absolutely horrible in which case usually I just here "Scrap it. Brainstorm more." Picking it apart is where the obnoxious insulting comes in. Other than that, you have to respect that it's that persons idea. They have probably put a lot of thought and effort into it. You shouldn't go telling them "add this" or "I don't like that". As far as the defining thing, that's another no-no. When dealing with fantasy, unless you're taking out of context a fantasy ideal with some pretty set guidelines, there is no way it works. Magic especially. Look at any genre of entertainment - magic doesn't work any particular way and it certainly doesn't have to adhear to any certain religion. Critiques should be things like "Maybe if this part was shorter", or "More emphasis on this part", not "Hey, add a karma meter."
That said, a rule of thumb when handling or giving critique, is that you never critique by saying a person should add or take away huge aspects of an idea. Unless an idea is absolutely horrible in which case usually I just here "Scrap it. Brainstorm more." Picking it apart is where the obnoxious insulting comes in. Other than that, you have to respect that it's that persons idea. They have probably put a lot of thought and effort into it. You shouldn't go telling them "add this" or "I don't like that". As far as the defining thing, that's another no-no. When dealing with fantasy, unless you're taking out of context a fantasy ideal with some pretty set guidelines, there is no way it works. Magic especially. Look at any genre of entertainment - magic doesn't work any particular way and it certainly doesn't have to adhear to any certain religion. Critiques should be things like "Maybe if this part was shorter", or "More emphasis on this part", not "Hey, add a karma meter."
Sadly, No, I have had quite a few ideas and my main critic has been myself. I wish people would criticize my ideas more, that way I can improve them.