Poll: Do you deserve to live?

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Blue Musician

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I accidental hit the "Yes" button.
I would say, No.
Just, No.


Well I actually have my reasons, but I'd rather not mention them, unless you ask that is.
 

Tipsy Giant

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Freezy_Breezy said:
Tipsy Giant said:
But all an athlete can do when you think about it is move their limbs about, we can all do that to some degree, whereas a scientist that discovers speed of light travel is way more important and i'd happily live in a world with zero athletes than zero scientists
HAH, you serious? "All athletes can do is move their limbs about"? All scientists can do is think, we can all do that to some extent. If you had any idea how much mental and emotional control and skill it took to be a top athlete, you'd know it's not anywhere near "just moving limbs about". I'm yet to see a nerd that has the determination and strength that an athlete has, to push their body AND mind to the limit contantly, improving every part of themselves. I'd rather be with an athlete, an infinately more complete human, than a nerd who can derive any equation in under three seconds but has no idea of the limits of his body.

Using your body as anything other than a shell to carry around your mind is pointless, you are your mind, without your mind you would be nothing but without your body you can still achieve greatness

 

FrostyChick

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Khaiseri said:
I accidental hit the "Yes" button.
I would say, No.
Just, No.


Well I actually have my reasons, but I'd rather not mention them, unless you ask that is.
I'm not going to lie and pretend the world smells of roses.
but I'm glad that human stupidity is infinte, the world would be terriblely dull if there wasn't anyone beneath us, my narcissistic ego would stave if there wasn't.
 

Good morning blues

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I don't accept the premise that life does not have any inherent value. If it doesn't, why do we abhor murder? Why aren't we okay with simply killing the poor and disabled?

Saying that we should accept that life has no inherent value "for the sake of argument" makes about as much sense as saying that we should accept that a two-week-old zygote is a human life that is the moral equivalent of an adult's "for the sake of argument" in a discussion of abortion. Not only is it a leading concept, it's one that a substantial amount of people would consider to be fundamentally incorrect, and which absolutely needs to be defended.
 

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I make games that entertain (some of) you. I'm hoping that providing so much joyful entertainment is a half-decent means of justifying my existence in accordance with the parameters set forth in this thread.
 

Blue Musician

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Iceman514 said:
Khaiseri said:
I accidental hit the "Yes" button.
I would say, No.
Just, No.


Well I actually have my reasons, but I'd rather not mention them, unless you ask that is.
I'm not going to lie and pretend the world smells of roses.
but I'm glad that human stupidity is infinte, the world would be terriblely dull if there wasn't anyone beneath us, my narcissistic ego would stave if there wasn't.
Yep, basically. I would also be glad with the ignorance of the humanity. But when humanity uses it's ignorance and stupidity to create pain and death, we as humans do not deserve to live.
 

FrostyChick

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Khaiseri said:
Iceman514 said:
Khaiseri said:
I accidental hit the "Yes" button.
I would say, No.
Just, No.


Well I actually have my reasons, but I'd rather not mention them, unless you ask that is.
I'm not going to lie and pretend the world smells of roses.
but I'm glad that human stupidity is infinte, the world would be terriblely dull if there wasn't anyone beneath us, my narcissistic ego would stave if there wasn't.
Yep, basically. I would also be glad with the ignorance of the humanity. But when humanity uses it's ignorance and stupidity to create pain and death, we as humans do not deserve to live.
believe me when I say this, If I could wipe the stain of humanity from the fabric of the universe I would and without hesitation. that said I do rather value my own life regardless of whether or not I "deserive it" or have "the right" to it (yes go ahead hate me, I am a huge coward).
 

Canadamus Prime

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No, I really don't think so. My parents would probably argue to the contrary, they're constantly telling me about my "potential", but somehow I just don't see it.
 

Blue Musician

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Iceman514 said:
Khaiseri said:
Iceman514 said:
Khaiseri said:
I accidental hit the "Yes" button.
I would say, No.
Just, No.


Well I actually have my reasons, but I'd rather not mention them, unless you ask that is.
I'm not going to lie and pretend the world smells of roses.
but I'm glad that human stupidity is infinte, the world would be terriblely dull if there wasn't anyone beneath us, my narcissistic ego would stave if there wasn't.
Yep, basically. I would also be glad with the ignorance of the humanity. But when humanity uses it's ignorance and stupidity to create pain and death, we as humans do not deserve to live.
believe me when I say this, If I could wipe the stain of humanity from the fabric of the universe I would and without hesitation. that said I do rather value my own life regardless of whether or not I "deserive it" or have "the right" to it (yes go ahead hate me, I am a huge coward).
The value of life is different than deserving it. I would also do the same choice anyways.
 

DefunctTheory

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C.S. Lewis argued (In The Screwtape Letters, a book thats an excellent read even if you aren't religious), that no one really DESERVES anything, even life. Your birth, and every minute of your life up to death, has been given to you regardless of worth, belief, or skill, by a generous and loving God.

I bring this argument in,knowing fully well that a flock of angry athiest awaits.

NOTE: Everyone really should read that book. It is a religious text, but it has a lot of insight into human behavior that stands on its own. Its also ridiculously entertaining.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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Objectively speaking there is no such thing as a deserved life. You were born...good for you, you will be alive until you die for better or worse. It's hard to explain what I'm thinking here but essentially...nihilism? Everything is relative, and everything is meaningless. So am I deserving? No. But am I undeserving? No. I simply am.
 

zehydra

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The very idea of anyone "deserving" anything should be thrown out altogether. Whether or not someone "deserves" something is pure opinion.
 

zehydra

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Sightless Wisdom said:
Objectively speaking there is no such thing as a deserved life. You were born...good for you, you will be alive until you die for better or worse. It's hard to explain what I'm thinking here but essentially...nihilism? Everything is relative, and everything is meaningless. So am I deserving? No. But am I undeserving? No. I simply am.
This, except the Everything is relative/meaningless part. You cannot assign a value to a life, so no one life is "worth more" than another. The very idea of having "worth" associated with living things is a dead end.
 

zehydra

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Sightless Wisdom said:
Objectively speaking there is no such thing as a deserved life. You were born...good for you, you will be alive until you die for better or worse. It's hard to explain what I'm thinking here but essentially...nihilism? Everything is relative, and everything is meaningless. So am I deserving? No. But am I undeserving? No. I simply am.
btw, if everything is meaningless, then I shouldn't be able to understand what you just told me.