Poll: do you think the human race should survive?
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I think that we've reached a point where humanity needs to realize that we influencing the planet too much and it's time we got off this rock.
Therefore implying that humans should not continue their existence on earth.
So man the cruisers and warm up the FTL drives cause we should find other places to settle.
Therefore implying that humans should not continue their existence on earth.
So man the cruisers and warm up the FTL drives cause we should find other places to settle.
What I want is the better aspects of our species to survive and the stupid destructive and negative bullshit to go extinct. Sad thing is, this is occurring WAAAAY to slowly, if at all. There needs to be some hugely dramatic global event,whatever that may be, to cause that necessary spark in human nature.
Our biggest enemy and barrier is Ego. That is one tough nut to crack..
Our biggest enemy and barrier is Ego. That is one tough nut to crack..
Whether we "deserve" to survive, I cannot say. Whether humanity will continue on a downward spiral and extinguish itself (or be executed by events outside of our control) or manage to evolve its collective consciousness to the point we achieve genuinely great things such as reaching the stars and breaking from our bonds on this planet to seed new populations elsewhere, I cannot know...
Whether I'm feeling in your kinda mood though (which is often, i'm a certified miserable bugger), I like to remind myself of Charlie Chaplin's speech from the dictator which I feel is strongly relevant to this topic:
We all want to help one another, human beings are like that. We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way.
Greed has poisoned men's souls, has barricaded the world with hate;
has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed.
We have developed speed but we have shut ourselves in:
machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
Our knowledge has made us cynical,
our cleverness hard and unkind.
We think too much and feel too little:
More than machinery we need humanity;
More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness.
Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.
Whether I'm feeling in your kinda mood though (which is often, i'm a certified miserable bugger), I like to remind myself of Charlie Chaplin's speech from the dictator which I feel is strongly relevant to this topic:
We all want to help one another, human beings are like that. We all want to live by each other's happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the earth is rich and can provide for everyone.
The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way.
Greed has poisoned men's souls, has barricaded the world with hate;
has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed.
We have developed speed but we have shut ourselves in:
machinery that gives abundance has left us in want.
Our knowledge has made us cynical,
our cleverness hard and unkind.
We think too much and feel too little:
More than machinery we need humanity;
More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness.
Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost.
Me too. I am so sick of scenarios where humans get fucked in less than a second. Yes. We should survive. We are capable of flight, going to the heavens (space that is) and then coming back. If something happens across the world killing many I will know in less then 30 minutes. Thats how far we have come from telegraphs. We are capable of surviving disastrous conditions, rebuilding and improving. Yes we should survive. Unless we can't control it (supernova or something like that)then we should survive.Quantum Roberts said:
Yes? Sure there are many negative things about us that suggest to say we should be wipe out but I say we are still a navie race and still got alot to learn (we only got ourselves to judge, no other higher setient beings to judge us). I stil think we as the human race can redeem ourselves and have a second chance to do so.
Until something better comes along, yes. Just as homo habilis and homo erectus should have survived until their evolutionary betters came along. Why wouldn't we survive?
Should or should not in kinda beside the point. Either it does or it does not. There is no reason for humanity (or anything else for that matter) to exist in the first place (other than simple cause and effect, with a dash of quantum probability), but there isn't a reason for it not to exist either. Humanity is a tiny speck in the scheme of things, so it's all a bit irrelevant. Just enjoy your life and let others enjoy theirs.
Hopeless determinist that I am, I'll refrain from having a real opinion about it.
Hopeless determinist that I am, I'll refrain from having a real opinion about it.
I voted other. Once we reach the transhuman phase, our resource use will shrink tremendously, and we'll be able to focus more on learning and exploration. That and religion and extremism will pretty much die out in favor of science and understanding, and even non-intervention.
We should continue to exist because we are the only species capable of contemplating the implications of our existence. Nothing else that we know of gives any damns about the effect they have on the universe at large, only what effect the universe at large has on them. This trait is undeniably important. If we are having a negative impact on existence, we can figure it out and we can change so that we are no longer having that impact. For that reason we should exist.
P.S. If you really want me to come out with more of these, I've got a million of them. In fact, I'd love it if somebody came at me with a reason for why we shouldn't exist, as I can easily twist it into a reason for why we should.
P.S. If you really want me to come out with more of these, I've got a million of them. In fact, I'd love it if somebody came at me with a reason for why we shouldn't exist, as I can easily twist it into a reason for why we should.
Support. Ever head of another species that has designed, made, and constructed anything like this?C F said:
Yup.
To everyone who says we're dicks: look at nature. Its a bigger dick. Humans are the only animals that don't rape their women (dolphins and apes do). Humans are the only ones that develop moral codes. For animals, theyll do anything as long as they can get away with it and spread their genes on.
To everyone who says we're dicks: look at nature. Its a bigger dick. Humans are the only animals that don't rape their women (dolphins and apes do). Humans are the only ones that develop moral codes. For animals, theyll do anything as long as they can get away with it and spread their genes on.