The second statement is false by definition. A game is just as good as a fanboy believes it to be, as 'good' is subjective, and any games quality, whatever it may be, is exactly what made them fanboys in the first place.RJ 17 said:They're both a bunch of morons. A game will never be as bad as an anti-fanboy thinks it will be, nor will it ever be as good as a fanboy believes it to be.
I was speaking in regards to everyone else. A fanboy will often glorify things that the general public doesn't really care about, and the same goes for the anti-fanboy: they'll often condemn things that really aren't that big of a deal to the general public. Thus, to the general public, a game will never be as bad as the anti-fanboys say it is, nor will it ever be as good as the fanboys say it is.Jadak said:The second statement is false by definition. A game is just as good as a fanboy believes it to be, as 'good' is subjective, and any games quality, whatever it may be, is exactly what made them fanboys in the first place.RJ 17 said:They're both a bunch of morons. A game will never be as bad as an anti-fanboy thinks it will be, nor will it ever be as good as a fanboy believes it to be.
my question is though, at what point does really really REALLY liking somthing make you a fanboy? you cant simply go through every single game remaining neutralRazada said:Anti-Fanboys.
Fanboys are happy and stupid, they love their game. Leave them to it. They will usually stick in there forums having a nice little circlejerk.
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no offence...buuuuuutkouriichi said:I also happen to think that Kane and Lynch 2 was an amazing game that will always be bashed because it wasnt CoD or Gears of War. It took risks, and got bashed for it.
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Ok, well..... The guns werent pinpoint accurate and handled extremely realistically, meaning that if you tried to run and gun you would lose every gun fight. Distinct lack of explosives probably didnt help either, when most people are used to being able to spam them like no tomorrow. You cant carry 300+ rounds of ammunition, and hold down the trigger till everything stops moving.Vault101 said:no offence...buuuuuutkouriichi said:I also happen to think that Kane and Lynch 2 was an amazing game that will always be bashed because it wasnt CoD or Gears of War. It took risks, and got bashed for it.
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that there seems like a cop-out argument, granted Im sure you could go into finer detail as to why you like kayne and lynch 2 and I wont dispute that
but that seems like glazing over the games faults, and coming up with cop-ou reasons as to why it wasnt liked, Im not saying "LOOK AT THE FAULTS...LOOK AT THEM!" that would be silly, Im just saying thats ignoring them and coming up with a made up reason (Duke Nukem for ever wasnt liked because it wasnt realistic enough!...<-no it was just kind of avergae)
using that logic....Mass effect isnt gears of war or COD but that was critically received..
I dont want to start anything over kayne and lynch, but its the argument that bothers me
I said both, because both sides have their crazy "above and beyond" fanatics.SonOfVoorhees said:snip
Valve fanboy disagrees!RJ 17 said:They're both a bunch of morons. A game will never be as good as a fanboy believes it to be.
By that metric, the first statement is equally false. "Good" cannot be subjective without "Bad" being just as subjective.Jadak said:The second statement is false by definition. A game is just as good as a fanboy believes it to be, as 'good' is subjective, and any games quality, whatever it may be, is exactly what made them fanboys in the first place.RJ 17 said:They're both a bunch of morons. A game will never be as bad as an anti-fanboy thinks it will be, nor will it ever be as good as a fanboy believes it to be.
What's ... worse? I like them both. The entire purpose of art and media is to make an emotional impression on the people who spend their time on it, and this is true in both of the cases you're describing. It's awesome that, for example, Doctor Who has so many followers, and it's awesome that, for example, Nickelback has so many haters, because both groups of people get some emotional high from talking about said subject, which, again, is exactly what's supposed to happen. I'm glad that there are people out there who love something so much that they feel the need to constantly talk about it and defend it, and I'm glad that there are also people who basically enjoy giving that first group someone to defend from. On the other hand, I sort of feel sorry for those who think they're `above all that nonsense' like most of the posts I've seen on this topic. Isn't getting excited over things the entire point of entertainment? I mean I understand trying to hold an objective view of `all these people are idiots' when it comes to politics or society or something that actually matters, but if you hold that view when it comes to media you're sort of missing the point and you sort of become one of those scroogey people who never end up living any sort of meaningful life. What do you do in your free time if you're not enjoying something so much that you either blindly follow it like a religion or you take the piss out of it every time it's mentioned? It just seems like a waste of valuable time, to me.Fanboys or Anti-Fanboys - Whats worse?