Poll: FATHER F***ING QUICK-SCOPING

[WorldCritic]

Wait, they think it requires more skill than normal sniping? I'd laugh if I wasn't so confused.

 

[gigastar]

Crucifixion is just a tad too religous for me, but its known the right mix of torture can break a person beyond all repair. Just keep it out of the eyes of anyone who may alert the UN, or just remove the UN itself. Whichever turns out easier.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Quick scoping is on the same level as procrastinating and camping, and griefing;
its what we call counter productive...

quick scoping is the equivalent of what i do,
use helicopters as projectiles!
via atachment of c4 to it, and bailing out as it aproaches.

Scopes are for aiming, not being a douche!
and Aircraft are for (insert stuff)...
not adding c4, and aiming with throtle and ruder, and then boom!

I dont know if I would call camping counter productive, depending on the match type you play in, and even then you could probably debate its usefulness.

OT: It never bothred me, but I'm really not that often quickscoped.

However, if someone enters my friends and mine's server and exploits it, we converge and kill that person constantly, even if in teams.

 

[Nomanslander]

Really don't have much of a problem with them, but I still voted crucifixion because I'm weirdly humored by that word every time I hear it.

=P

 

[emeraldrafael]

camping!

camping...

My derived definition of camping, is; one spot, 'forever', , your camp site never changes...
(not to be confused with stoping to wait for people for a moment)

Quickscoping...

Yeah? Its perfect for sniping, or if you want to play two flag gather the flag. Or if you have a base for defend the base. Number of kills doesnt equal greatness. Its how you help your team win in response to your role. My friend Tom does nothing but camp, and I'm glad he does, cause he's a god at it and has helped me in teams to win more then 70% of the matches I play with him in

 

[Woodsey]

The thing I want to reply with got me a suspension the other day...

Must...

Restrain...

Self...

I don't get this whole quickscoping thing. As far as I'm aware you essentially zoom in really quickly and hope for the best, in which case it is pretty skilful.

If not, well, I couldn't care less anyway. Just do it back.

This whole "honour amongst CoD players" thing is just getting stupid. If the game lets you use it and it doesn't ruin the experience for other people (and I mean actually ruin, not just lead them to ***** and whine) then go a-fucking-head.

It's like camping - if you're too dumb not capable enough to work out where a guy's been sat and shooting at you from for an entire round then you only have yourself to blame.

 

[CCountZero]

*Sigh* When will you people learn, it's all about the context?

Not every game has an aim assist function.
For example quick scoping in cod4 on the PC is based purely on skill, there is no exploit in use.

Actually, there is.

Sniper rifles in modern shooters are usually a one-shot kill to the torso, neck or head areas.
This is because your targets will usually be in and out of your sights so fast you have zero chance of a second shot.

Now, in real life, at a range of 20 meters or less, a 7.62 fired from an AK47 would kill a man just as effectively as a .408 Cheyenne Tactical (just an example), but in the game mechanics, it does not.

This essentially renders the quickscoping sniper rifle more effective than the weapons designed with close quaters battle in mind. (Shotguns, SMGs and Carbines)

 

[A Playful Shark]

Sometimes i feel like the only person who doesn't mind quick scoping in COD games.
The biggest problem is if you completely patch it out, sniping is gimped.
Don't give me the "it just makes sniping take more skill" crap. In these games you die so quickly, you really cant afford the extra time it takes to scope in and hold it for half a second.
Seriously, quit complaining.

 

[ajemas]

You might want to look into using some more punctuation in your posts. I'm not trying to flame, but it does help with the overall coherency of your message. At least read it through once before you post it.
Anyway, quickscoping, like in or not, is a part of the game and a legitimate strategy. I personally don't do it that much, but I'm not opposed to it either. If you're so mad about it, why don't you try doing it yourself?

 

[VelvetHorror]

CoD4 quickscoping = skill

MW2 quickscoping =/= skill

I haven't tried too much sniping in Black Ops, and most of it was pre-patch where it was impossible to quickly scope in. However from what I've heard, it is more like Cod4 in terms of quickscoping so I don't have a problem with it.

I think quickscoping does take skill, due to the nature of the rifle being semi-automatic and the scope limiting maneuverability. With MW2, the acog scope and sleight of hand pro made ADS and aiming way too easy with sniper rifles and lowered the amount of skill it took to quickscope.

I still think the most skillful way of killing people in black ops is either knifing only(due to commando and tactical knives being gone) or pistols only. If someone beat you in a ffa using only a pistol, you have no right to complain.

 

[crudus]

Wait...why not just learn how to do it? With enough practise you can do it aswell.

It is the same reason the good guy shows mercy on the bad guy. It is so the good guys doesn't lower themselves to the same level as the bad guy. (I don't totally agree with this answer)

A less stupid reason but less on the nose: I quite honestly like variety in my multi-player gaming experience. If people just kill each other the same way over and over again for a few hours it is boring.

And this is an exploit how?

It is an exploit because it circumvents the game designers intentions. The game designs wanted snipers to be effective at long range. To do this the bullet goes everywhere when out of scoping. The quick scoping allows the sniper rifle to be effective at close range.

 

[Joshimodo]

Quickscopers always make me laugh. Relying on console aim-assist and universal bullet magnetism on all platforms.

If they think they're quick, throw them on Quake, give them a railgun, and see how they match up against someone who is actually quick.

 

[Kurokami]

Argh... Whining should be considered an exploit. (of people's ability to listen)

I don't even play FPS games anymore, but I never understood crying over this, it takes as much skill as using any other gun in COD.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

Proper sniping in Bad Company 2.

Yes. That is what it is. I <3 BC2. Can't wait to get Vietnam.

OT: I'm all for bringing back crucifixions. I think it's the most artistic form of execution.

agreed on
quick scoping is alright but i havent come across a lot of quick scopers in Blops but the ones i have , have failed since i was using an AUG
also i prefer the guillotine over crucifixions for watching

I only play hardcore, so if I got sniped, I wouldn't know either way, plus there is less bullshit- bullets kill.

Guillotine is great for a quick show, but if you want a movie, go with crucifixion. lol.

 

[Irridium]

Wait, so they brought back quick-scoping?

Why don't they just take off the auto-aim? You know, make it so you don't instantly snap to an enemies head when you aim?

 

[Irridium]

Quickscopers always make me laugh. Relying on console aim-assist and universal bullet magnetism on all platforms.

If they think they're quick, throw them on Quake, give them a railgun, and see how they match up against someone who is actually quick.

I'd actually love to see this. Oh man, that would be fun to watch.

 

[crudus]

The game designers intentions (which most of the time are unknown to us gamers) vary from game to game. You can't state what the designers intentions are unless they themselves make it clear.

Moreover, if we continue this line of thought (that their intentions are based of a semblance of realism) pistols should be terrible at range, but they aren't. Is using a pistol to pick someone off at range an exploit then?

If you say yes to these and declare it an exploit, then I declare that it is not a bad exploit; it gives no unfair advantage, and requires skill.

Actually, it started in Counter Strike. Someone found out where the most powerful sniper shot each time. They decided to draw a crosshair on their monitor right where the bullet hit. Now, instead of looking down the scope of the rifle he just could noscope people better than other people could snipe. Clearly some modification to the sniper rifle had to be done because it was far too powerful. Thus we have the randomization of the bullets path when you aren't scoped. Quick-scoping is a way around this. By the way if you really wanted to continue this line of thought, the snipers would have to account for wind, gravity, and the rotation of the Earth over medium to long ranges. It isn't about realism. It is about balance.

 

[Joshimodo]

Quickscopers always make me laugh. Relying on console aim-assist and universal bullet magnetism on all platforms.

If they think they're quick, throw them on Quake, give them a railgun, and see how they match up against someone who is actually quick.

I'd actually love to see this. Oh man, that would be fun to watch.

Yep, all 3 minutes of it.

 

[Balimaar]

I hate quickscoping too.

It takes no skill whatsoever (I'm assuming we are talking about MW2 here).

Point center of screen at someone - right click - left click - kill gained. The two clicks occurring in less than a second.

I put quickscoping in MW2 in the same category as one man army tubing, and marathon commando knife running - requires minimal (if any) skill to succeed.

EDIT: Yes I can quickscope. Took me all of 3 minutes to get it down. Won 3 FFAs in a row in a room of multiple prestigers from strong clans. Hated quicksoping and haven' done it since.

 

[TheTaco007]

they also think that quickscoping takes more skill then proper sniping in badcompany 2

They're two different kinds of skills Bad Company 2 sniping is being able to lead targets, and compensate for drop. Black Ops sniping is having really fast reaction times and being good with the analog stick.

I hate quickscoping too.

It takes no skill whatsoever (I'm assuming we are talking about MW2 here).

Point center of screen at someone - right click - left click - kill gained. The two clicks occurring in less than a second.

I put quickscoping in MW2 in the same category as one man army tubing, and marathon commando knife running - requires minimal (if any) skill to succeed.

EDIT: Yes I can quickscope. Took me all of 3 minutes to get it down. Won 3 FFAs in a row in a room of multiple prestigers from strong clans. Hated quicksoping and haven' done it since.

MW2 quickscoping can be done by a retarded chimp.

Black Ops quickscoping is a LOT harder. (Not saying that it take a whole lot of skill, just practice.)

Quickscopers on the console. All I have to say is this:

You people have auto-aim, just aim and shoot. That isn't skill or any challenge, that's a cheap exploit/trick to get you some skills. If you dare saying you have skill to me on CoD@Console, I will t-bag you.

The end.

Yeah, but we have to deal with crappy analog sticks, while you get a mouse. Having skill on a console requires a mastery of the controls more so than the PC. (Though in my opinion PC games are better. Too bad I have a MAC.)