lol yeah I am a bit (very) dogmatic on this issue to the point of insanity, it's just a point of semantics I have. Only game i would say that has come anywhere near to "Perfection" would be HL:2 and Kotor. (I've discounted a lot of games because i feel my nostalgia has tainted them)Icehearted said:I would think mathematics/science and entertainment are mutually exclusive. A video game is more complex than that, and much more subjective.gunny1993 said:I can still think a game is amazing even to be almost perfect, but to me perfect means absolutely nothing can be improved; since I believe that to think something cannot be improved is to be naive and even foolish I will never see anything as perfect.Icehearted said:I think it comes down to being perfect at what it does, not at everything. In this regard there are perfect games out there, though the merit of it's enjoyment will be subjective 100% of the time.gunny1993 said:Perfection is impossible, hence nothing is perfect.
I would say that Ultima 7 collection is perfect. It does everything it's supposed to, and for it's time rather beautifully. Wipeout XL, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Point Blank (with Guncon), and Yoshi's Island were also examples of perfection according to the criteria I've specified (though again, the "fun" equation is subjective).
You may not agree, but I feel your outlook is narrow, and making such dogmatically blanket statements like that dismisses the possibility of what is otherwise very possible for even you.
I apply this philosophy to any one part of anything (be it the pacing of a story, the way the characters work together or something else.)
A nice analogy of this is a proton trying to reach the speed of light.
I just think overall perfection rather than perfect at what it attempts to do are not the same. I'm sure we'll agree to disagree on this, which of course is fine.
To frame it as you have, I would look at it like a well made very tasty cookie. Not perfect food, but for what it is it's perfect.