Poll: Game of Thrones - Who is the most evil character?
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Reasonable Atheist said:
Seconded. He basically started almost everything. And anything he didn't start he made worse.
Ive only watched bits and pieces, but...
Joffrey Baratheon - evil little ****. Nothing special though. He is possibly the most evil, but as was before and after, not that big of a threat to anyone with the power or ability to not care for his shit.
Cersei Lannister - Just a *****, and it is starting to turn out bad for her.
Tywin Lannister - Not evil, really, just pragmatic and practicle.
Ramsay Snow - Vicious prick, possibly tied with Joffrey, but much more capable by himself.
However, Im going with other.
Joffrey Baratheon - evil little ****. Nothing special though. He is possibly the most evil, but as was before and after, not that big of a threat to anyone with the power or ability to not care for his shit.
Cersei Lannister - Just a *****, and it is starting to turn out bad for her.
Tywin Lannister - Not evil, really, just pragmatic and practicle.
Ramsay Snow - Vicious prick, possibly tied with Joffrey, but much more capable by himself.
However, Im going with other.
There is someone for more evil...
heinous...
and absolutely remorseless...
And when the times comes for him to make his play...
everyone will remember his name... a name that will bring nightmares for years to come...
Hodor!
Count my vote for Gregor Clegane as well. Most of the others have some sort of purpose or agenda behind their evil acts...Clegane strikes me as one of those brutally sadistic sorts who just wants to see the world burn.ZiggyE said:
You have a point about Roose, but ultimately that's why, if we're going with "pure" evil, I would rank him below his son. His capacity for cruelty may be greater (see: how Ramsay was conceived in the first place), but he's ultimately a pragmatic man with ungodly levels of self control. Granted, that's still pretty evil, but for me it's people who are committed to being wicked even when doing so actively impedes them who come across as the truly wicked ones.Silvanus said:
What was the expression, "I am compelled to perform evil, regardless of its utility."? XD
Which leads to my opinion! I'd say it's a tie between Ramsay and Joffery, though if I had to pick one it'd be the former. Both characters are equally wicked, but Ramsay is way more high-functioning about it.
My pick would be whoever came up with the idea to have a random Son of the Harpy
I voted for Ramsay though. He kills and tortures for fun and his only slightly sympathetic quality is that he feels that his father doesn't love him enough. At least Joffrey was still a kid with room to grow. Roose is just doing what is necessary to further his family's power. Plenty of other families do bad things for power. Roose just happened to betray a main character so we felt it a bit more.
kill Barristan the Bold. Seriously, fuck them for killing off one of the most awesome characters from the books in such a shitty fashion. And then Danny goes and pulls a Mad King Aerys. Perfect tribute to the guy who just died and had warned you about that very thing. Ya, I really didn't like that last episode...
Silvanus said:
And stupidity. Which, in this setting, tends to get you killed
On the contrary! Were I a vassal lord under such morons as the Stark family, I'd be duty bound to usurp them immediately. For personal reasons, and for the good of the north. Traipsing about with your own men, and countrymen, following some stupid boy who's trying to be his stupid father (and failing) to fight a war they could never really win.
But seriously, Roose is evil. However as another poster said, he's just doing what the setting allows, and technically even expects of him. He has no need to be cruel, but neither does Twyin, or the Greyjoys, or Cersei, or any others.
Daenerys Targaryen.
All she did in the entire series is to travel to a foreign country, fucks everything up, and then cry dragons whenever someone questions her motives, all whilst failing to control whatever she believes she is. This is the textbook definition of manipulation and a power trip.
All she did in the entire series is to travel to a foreign country, fucks everything up, and then cry dragons whenever someone questions her motives, all whilst failing to control whatever she believes she is. This is the textbook definition of manipulation and a power trip.
None of them.
GoT's villains are way too cartoony to be believable. I only realized this after the fourth season. I used to think Joffrey / Cersei were evil as hell, but they're so exaggerated, it's more funny at this point to me.
Joffrey, for example is bad in every single way. He's cruel, incapable of compassion, stupid, egotistical, never wants to gets his hands dirty, cowardly, has bad taste in humor / entertainment, etc. etc.
I imagine R.R. Martin sweating profusely trying his hardest to convince us that these people are EVIL!! (TM). Just stop, man. Stop.
No wonder he said that "Walter White is a Bigger Monster Than Anyone in Westeros" (actual quote, btw).
GoT's villains are way too cartoony to be believable. I only realized this after the fourth season. I used to think Joffrey / Cersei were evil as hell, but they're so exaggerated, it's more funny at this point to me.
Joffrey, for example is bad in every single way. He's cruel, incapable of compassion, stupid, egotistical, never wants to gets his hands dirty, cowardly, has bad taste in humor / entertainment, etc. etc.
I imagine R.R. Martin sweating profusely trying his hardest to convince us that these people are EVIL!! (TM). Just stop, man. Stop.
No wonder he said that "Walter White is a Bigger Monster Than Anyone in Westeros" (actual quote, btw).
Please do not conflate the television show with the books, which are written by Martin. The books are not perfect by any means, but they are miles beyond the embarrassing fan fiction of the television show.SKBPinkie said:
Hmm, Roose is most definitely not a mustache-twirling villain in the books. He is indeed cold and cruel, but also very calculated and his actions weren't without some degree of warrant. There might be more of a dichotomy between good and bad in the show, but if this were 5 years ago, I doubt many if any people would say that Roose was the most evil, if even "evil" at all.Silvanus said:
It's been so long since I have read the books and I haven't watched the show, but I am sure if you search in the ASOIAF forums you will find some very good arguments in defense of Roose's actions.
Considering what Gregor did to his little brother over a friggin' toy, that last bit might be more accurate than you think.Robert B. Marks said:
Got to go with Ramsey on this one. While dear old Dad is obviously cruel as hell (he IS a Bolton), Roose at least has a sort of endgame planned with his evil/cruelty.
Ramsey...? He's pretty much just being evil for the sake of being evil.
I base this on both the books and the increasingly ridiculous fanfiction that is the show as of the most recent episodes.
Seriously, I have nothing against Bronn, but who the front-flipping fuck thought that having Jamie team up with Bronn and going down to Dorne was a good idea?