Poll: Have you sold out?

[Eisenfaust]

personal gain is my ideal, so selling out my ideals for personal gain is... sort of self-fulfilling

 

[Sneaklemming]

When I decide not to buy something it's usually because the product is rubbish - like MW2. It wasn't going to have dedicated servers, and I was one of the people who kicked up a fuss about that - mainly because I didn't see a point in buying MW2 if it didn't support dedicated servers.

So I didn't buy it.

If I feel strongly about something - there must be a reason. If I was simply jumping on the band wagon or lying, then I wouldn't actually feel strongly about it, and then would "sell-out" as you say.

The closest to "selling out" I guess is when I said I would never buy Starcraft 2 (based on my idea that it was nothing but a remake with nice graphics of the (in my opinion) poor starcraft 1) but then after it released I watched some youtube videos of pro matches and it's complexity won me over. I'm glad it did too - it turns my expectation of what sc2 was trying to be were different to what it actually was actually trying to achieve.

 

[Aur0ra145]

I didn't sell out, I bought in!

 

[smeghead25]

Not yet. I mean, I used to ***** and complain about the Xbox 360 being a stupid rushed out piece of shit that dies all the time, and I still bought one. But it was the games I bought it for, and my views never wavered on it. It was just a necessary evil (not that it's evil, but you get what I mean). And the RROD happening to every one of the twelve people I know AT LEAST once has proven me right anyway. And I bought a PS3 when the price dropped, just as planned. I imagine there's certain leeway for these sorts of things.

And when it comes to buying videogames I don't think you can really say you 'sold out' if you just decided to try something you've always complained about. I'd call that opening up your mind and not being a stubborn troll.

 

[Ham_authority95]

Nope...

I've never found it hard to get things for myself with my set of ideals.

 

[bak00777]

i hate Activision now, but i play WoW. I think of it as supporting Blizzard rather than Activision.

Besides that, i cant think of any other examples.

 

[Ham_authority95]

personal gain is my ideal, so selling out my ideals for personal gain is... sort of self-fulfilling

Oh, or this could be my answer. Bitches gotta get paid...

 

[Stalk3rchief]

After years of feuding and swearing and begrudging, I watched a blu-ray movie on a PS3. I'm ashamed.

 

[KazTheKing]

I don't think I have but I will probably have to soon. I own a 360 with 3 games. I have owned a 360 for 3 years. It is impossible to have a console and not sell out.


I do buy Madden Games every couple of years but I have been playing it since 96...

 

[BreakfastMan]

No, not really. I have never boycotted a company, and doubt I ever will. I tend to stick to my ideals pretty closely.

 

[CrashBang]

There's a quote I remember by Frank Carter of Gallows (one of my favourite bands) from when they signed to a major label. He roughly said that he was happy to admit that he sold out, because now he's a millionaire; he can buy things for his mum, for himself and move to a nice place, have a good life.

And still make his music but use the record company to promote it and gain a wider audience.

Apparently, making money off of your music constitutes "selling out" regardless of musical content.

Take Kings of leon, for example. I liked their earlier stuff and not the new, but seriously, fuck anyone who bitches about how "OOOH THEY SOLD OUT THATS WHY I DONT LIKE THEM ANYMORE THEY JUST WHORED THEMSELVES TO THE MAN" No, they became more popular and moved into a style you could call more "poppy". The band is still making the music they want to make, if they want to start some big gigging singalongs and get some catchy tunes out there then they can do as they please. It's no-one but the band's business what kind of music they make, but if they change to a style that earlier fans dislike and get cash for it, then that makes them a bunch of sluts, apparently. KoL are just an example, this can apply to a huge number of artists.

Song appears on popular mainstream film? selling out (It's never "they want to reach a wider audience" but always because there's some apparent moneylust and crumbling integrity going on). Band appears on popular mainstream TV show? Selling out (they never just enjoy performing for television or like the show). Poppier music? Selling out (but god forbid they just want to do that style regardless of the money they make). I like to think that it's just how opinionated old fans of a band try to justify the band's actions, because they refuse to believe the band may like something that they don't. This happens regardless of whether the band didn't want to "sell out" anyway.

Now if a band starts sowing a lot of seeds and bringing in money any which way they can, quite obviously abandoning old principles and visibly becoming less good in exchange for cash, then we maybe have grounds for calling them out. Otherwise, it's all a load of fan whining.

Wow, uh, sorry for tangental rant.

Frank Carter ftw.

This rant made me very happy. I'm so glad there are people out there who don't whine and ***** and throw around the term 'sellout'. AFI used to play more hardcore punk music and after deciding to turn to more alternative rock/electronic stuff they were abused by hardcore fans, being called sellouts etc. I myself am a long-term fan of AFI and love their new stuff as much as their old stuff. It is a band's own choice if they become disinterested in a style of music they've been playing for years. It happens, tastes change, directions are changed, this is not them selling out. Fans need to understand this

 

[CrashBang]

There's a quote I remember by Frank Carter of Gallows (one of my favourite bands) from when they signed to a major label. He roughly said that he was happy to admit that he sold out, because now he's a millionaire; he can buy things for his mum, for himself and move to a nice place, have a good life.

And still make his music but use the record company to promote it and gain a wider audience.

Apparently, making money off of your music constitutes "selling out" regardless of musical content.

Take Kings of leon, for example. I liked their earlier stuff and not the new, but seriously, fuck anyone who bitches about how "OOOH THEY SOLD OUT THATS WHY I DONT LIKE THEM ANYMORE THEY JUST WHORED THEMSELVES TO THE MAN" No, they became more popular and moved into a style you could call more "poppy". The band is still making the music they want to make, if they want to start some big gigging singalongs and get some catchy tunes out there then they can do as they please. It's no-one but the band's business what kind of music they make, but if they change to a style that earlier fans dislike and get cash for it, then that makes them a bunch of sluts, apparently. KoL are just an example, this can apply to a huge number of artists.

Song appears on popular mainstream film? selling out (It's never "they want to reach a wider audience" but always because there's some apparent moneylust and crumbling integrity going on). Band appears on popular mainstream TV show? Selling out (they never just enjoy performing for television or like the show). Poppier music? Selling out (but god forbid they just want to do that style regardless of the money they make). I like to think that it's just how opinionated old fans of a band try to justify the band's actions, because they refuse to believe the band may like something that they don't. This happens regardless of whether the band didn't want to "sell out" anyway.

Now if a band starts sowing a lot of seeds and bringing in money any which way they can, quite obviously abandoning old principles and visibly becoming less good in exchange for cash, then we maybe have grounds for calling them out. Otherwise, it's all a load of fan whining.

Wow, uh, sorry for tangental rant.

Frank Carter ftw.

This rant made me very happy. I'm so glad there are people out there who don't whine and ***** and throw around the term 'sellout'. AFI used to play more hardcore punk music and after deciding to turn to more alternative rock/electronic stuff they were abused by hardcore fans, being called sellouts etc. I myself am a long-term fan of AFI and love their new stuff as much as their old stuff. It is a band's own choice if they become disinterested in a style of music they've been playing for years. It happens, tastes change, directions are changed, this is not them selling out. Fans need to understand this

Fans will never understand a whole lot. While I'm ranting, I also hate the fans that think the band owe them in some way. One Biffy fan once said "This new album sucks. I was ok with the previous one because there was some stuff on there for the core fans, but now they just don't care anymore".

Where do you start with that?

I was actually gonna mention Biffy. I've got a friend who thought that Only Revolutions was their second album and was gobsmacked when I told him it was their fifth. I played him some stuff from Blackened Sky and he loved it, but didn't like anything from Infinity Land (which is also my least favourite Biffy album) and it got me thinking about how hardcore Biffy fans love Infinity Land, calling it the real Biffy stuff, and yet their very first album was far closer, in terms of 'heaviness', to their newer stuff. There was also an article in Rock Sound about how Biffy fans feel that the band have a duty to please them and how embarrassing that sounds. Surely, as a fan, one should appreciate and at least try to admire the bands progression? Not feel that the band owe them anything