Here's the problem: Finding a job where you can do that is hard, particularly if you haven't an employment history, so people without your advantage have to grind. Hell, even some retail joints won't hire people without experience.Athefist said:Lots of people use low pay jobs to not only grind out hours for a paycheck, but also learn a skill.Katatori-kun said:There are loads of people in the same position as you, only they don't have family connections and so they're forced to put in 50 hours a week at McDonalds. At a dead-end position where they're forced to work long hours just to make enough to survive, but they have no hope of rising out of that position to something better.
Or, you might need it to eat, make rent etc. You assume that you can always find the job that will teach you a skill useful to your career. I guess having one handed to you makes that feel likely. It isn't. And to find such a position in a field which will make you enough to be called "Rich" is incredibly unlikely. Even finding a crappy job which gets you nowhere with perks useful to you is hard.If you want to eventually run a McDonalds, by all means take a job there. If you just need a bit of cash while going to school, take a job there. If neither of those apply, don't take a job there.
Which requires that you get said apprenticeship. Jobs aren't always easy to come by.I could make small money slaving away as a plumbers apprentice, but at the end I'd hopefully be a plumber.
That's a wonderful and completely irrelevant example. And I'm sure you've got no chance at all of unexpected pregnancy. I'm sure no-one driven ever has accidentally gotten someone pregnant, or had a problem in their personal life which affected their life and career.We're talking apples and oranges here really. The young guy who gets someone pregnant isn't a person driven towards success no matter what his background is.
Unless of course, you want to be able to do those things while having a roof and food.Being driven means you make sacrifices. You don't do much that isn't focused on achieving your goal.
Which is an incredibly privileged response.Driven people are constantly asking themselves "Is this activity propelling me in the direction I need to go?" if the answer is no, they drop it.
I guess it's lucky that student debts aren't a thing or a serious problem. Oh wait. They are.On a personal level, I don't get paid much for the work I do. I have 4 roommates and really own very little. The trade off is my education is paid for
Hence, lucky. You've got a job lined up, which you lucked into, which basically paid off your education. For that, I'd have to sign up for a military scholarship, which would result in me being signed with them for my time in school+some, and paid at a lower rate than I would outside of the military. And of course, there's whether you want to work for the military at all, but that's besides the point.and at the end of it I will be taking over portions of the business.
You would want to intern. Whether you could or not is a matter of chance. I'll tell you one thing. The manager at McDonalds is far more likely to hire you as an unskilled kitchen hand than the H&R person is as an intern. Especially if you can't afford the education to go with the job.If I didn't have the family connections, I could still have the 4 roommates, work a low end job to cover expenses and still intern at a place where I wanted to eventually end up.
There are a few ways.Bamba said:Well? Does anyone know? Ive heard that they just got lucky by winning a lottery or being successful in making business and stuff like that. But I dont really know. So.....I was just hoping if you guys can please explain to me? I know its too early to dream about that, but I plan on trying to become rich myself somehow.
No, it does not. What I said was some of the rich had to work at it to get where they are. That says nothing about anybody else, you're just inferring, I'm not implying.manic_depressive13 said:That implies that people who don't get rich don't work hard enough, which anyone can see is bullshit.
How do the poor become poor?dyre said:I imagine a few of them worked super hard for a really long time, a few of them were at the right place at the right time, a few of them saw an opportunity before most others did and took a risk to pursue that opportunity, and a few just got it from their rich parents.
Like when asking "how do the poor become poor," you're likely to get a huge range of answers.
Hey, at least of all the groups of people who have been the subject of unsubstantiated hate, the rich are doing well enough to generally shrug off that hate!Heronblade said:Incorrect, while that was true a few centuries ago,the vast majority of millionaires and billionaires these days did not inherit their fortune.Copper Zen said:Most people get rich the REAL 'Ye Olde Fashioned Way'...they inherit their money.
Got to love all the unsubstantiated hate going around this thread. Jealousy is a powerfully blinding emotion. The simple truth of the matter is that no one, even given all of the advantages in the world, can make that kind of fortune without a great deal of personal ability and hard work.
But that begs the question: is it schools' jobs to teach students about money management? As far as I know, it was just education in numerous fields that subjectively work well for the society around them, obedience to authority, a bit of counselling, but aside from that, you learn it from the universal class of "life", when you're actually in work, and, you know, actual counsellors and/or therapists.Roxor said:If schools taught kids how to actually handle money, this wouldn't happen.wombat_of_war said:forget about getting rich with a lottery. most people who win lotteries when checked 12 months later were worse off financially 12 months later
Incredible, I had no idea "the poor" were a homogeneous group, with each member sharing the exact same life story! My parents told me a story about how their parents became poor because the government in Cultural Revolution era China seized the possessions of all the business owners, college educated people, scientists, etc in the country, but clearly they must have been lying because that doesn't at all match the story you told...M920CAIN said:How do the poor become poor?dyre said:I imagine a few of them worked super hard for a really long time, a few of them were at the right place at the right time, a few of them saw an opportunity before most others did and took a risk to pursue that opportunity, and a few just got it from their rich parents.
Like when asking "how do the poor become poor," you're likely to get a huge range of answers.
Hey, at least of all the groups of people who have been the subject of unsubstantiated hate, the rich are doing well enough to generally shrug off that hate!Heronblade said:Incorrect, while that was true a few centuries ago,the vast majority of millionaires and billionaires these days did not inherit their fortune.Copper Zen said:Most people get rich the REAL 'Ye Olde Fashioned Way'...they inherit their money.
Got to love all the unsubstantiated hate going around this thread. Jealousy is a powerfully blinding emotion. The simple truth of the matter is that no one, even given all of the advantages in the world, can make that kind of fortune without a great deal of personal ability and hard work.
Well I can answer that. Parents have good jobs, make loan, build (not buy) house on bought terrain with loaned money. Parents think "sure we can pay for the loan in 10 years with our salaries." Company goes bankrupt, whole city is full of unemployed people, parents can't get new jobs, children are learning well, want higher education, can't go where they want, they stay in the city with their parents and study at city college. kid graduates. tries to find work (still searching) in a city with lots of unemployed people and few options (besides slave labor with subminimum pay) => BINGO: broke ass family. no food on the table. bank threatens to sell house built for peanuts, family in the street. savvy?
Also: true story.
Happened to my family too in the communism era. So that would be another reason, before the present one . I even have a grand parent who went to jail because he refused to freely give up his business (a bakery) to the state. So yeah, but I was giving just one example, I didn't say it's universal. Point is, some people are poor because others want to be very rich, no matter the cost to others.dyre said:Incredible, I had no idea "the poor" were a homogeneous group, with each member sharing the exact same life story! My parents told me a story about how their parents became poor because the government in Cultural Revolution era China seized the possessions of all the business owners, college educated people, scientists, etc in the country, but clearly they must have been lying because that doesn't at all match the story you told...M920CAIN said:How do the poor become poor?dyre said:I imagine a few of them worked super hard for a really long time, a few of them were at the right place at the right time, a few of them saw an opportunity before most others did and took a risk to pursue that opportunity, and a few just got it from their rich parents.
Like when asking "how do the poor become poor," you're likely to get a huge range of answers.
Hey, at least of all the groups of people who have been the subject of unsubstantiated hate, the rich are doing well enough to generally shrug off that hate!Heronblade said:Incorrect, while that was true a few centuries ago,the vast majority of millionaires and billionaires these days did not inherit their fortune.Copper Zen said:Most people get rich the REAL 'Ye Olde Fashioned Way'...they inherit their money.
Got to love all the unsubstantiated hate going around this thread. Jealousy is a powerfully blinding emotion. The simple truth of the matter is that no one, even given all of the advantages in the world, can make that kind of fortune without a great deal of personal ability and hard work.
Well I can answer that. Parents have good jobs, make loan, build (not buy) house on bought terrain with loaned money. Parents think "sure we can pay for the loan in 10 years with our salaries." Company goes bankrupt, whole city is full of unemployed people, parents can't get new jobs, children are learning well, want higher education, can't go where they want, they stay in the city with their parents and study at city college. kid graduates. tries to find work (still searching) in a city with lots of unemployed people and few options (besides slave labor with subminimum pay) => BINGO: broke ass family. no food on the table. bank threatens to sell house built for peanuts, family in the street. savvy?
Also: true story.