PaulH said:
Lightknight said:
It isn't that the word exists, it's that it has begun to be used as an insult and is seen as such. The most popular being the whole "Cis Scum" usage.
Where?
Where has the word beeing used
as a pejorative?
'Cis scum' is not cis being used as a pejorative. If I wrote 'die straight scum', can I then argue that straight is a dirty word and you people should scrap it?
You keep saying this is fact? Where?
Look, I'm going to assume this is a misunderstanding and that you really aren't aware of the entire "Die Cis Scum" meme. So I'll help you out:
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/die-cis-scum
It is associated with individuals who enact physical and lethal violence against transpeople.
It is also becoming increasingly more commonly used as a slur against people who are generally anti-trans. Now, while I agree that anti-trans people deserve a slur and anyone committing violence deserves prison time, it doesn't change the fact that it's THIS word being used.
Essentially, the term is becoming synonymous with hate and violence. Like being called a KKK member.
Lightknight said:
If transgendered individuals largely found the term "transgendered" offensive we would find another way to label the condition.
But apparently that sentiment only goes one way.
Or maybe we just have thicker skins...
Oh, is that why Gender Identity Disorder is now considered taboo and replaced by Gender Dysphoria despite still being an official disorder (which rightfully entitles surgical resolution to the problem)?
You don't have thicker skin, you have the same thickness of skin.
You know what's funny? THe term has been around pertaining to cisgender persons for 25 years. Nobody had a problem with it. It seems like a handful of people using it to criticize people who don't feel gender dysphoria, specifically ... people like you try to explain away how our silencing of a word that has no pejorative value is 'noble'.
How long were the terms fag or retard around?
Now, Cisgender hasn't been around for 25 years. Cissexual has. Cissexual is actually the term that is specific to a person born with a gender identity matching their sex.
cissexual as "people who are not transsexual and who have only ever experienced their mental and physical sexes as being aligned" (Wiki comparing Cisgender with Cissexual)
Cisgender is actually a term merely pertaining to those who do not identify as transgendered
Hypocrisy it seems to me. Why exactly is someone unjustified to use a word like 'cis' when you can't even be bothered to use self-elected pronouns? Seems like double standards to me. Why exactly does it hurt you if I use cisgender as per the dictionary use between me and my friends?
Not using pronouns is different than using slurs or specifically USING the pronouns which are offensive.
Not using words isn't a slur. What I'm doing also isn't offensive. "Oh no, he uses the person's name instead of pronouns out of fear that he'll slip up and use the wrong one and get terrible backlash for it... what a terrible person... Die Cis Scum".
Do you get offended when people say your name in conversation instead of using a pronoun whenever possible? I recommend making the case for why your name is a slur or derogatory term.