I generally tip pretty high because I know people who work in restaurants, and I know what they have had to put up with every day.
Link does not work.Fraser.J.A said:I sympathise, but in the wide view, that attitude exacerbates the problem. As long as people are obliged to tip, employers can keep paying a pittance (although how they can pay below minimum wage I don't understand), which means employees keep having this horrible uncertainty about their income. It's a vicious cycle.randommaster said:Tips are how many managers justify a 2.50 hourly wage for employees, which is something like below half minimum wage here in the US.
That's easy for me to say, living where the phenomenon doesn't exist, and if I lived in the US I wouldn't be under the illusion that me not tipping was going to make anything better. But it's not a good system.
I would tip if I lived somewhere where it was an obligation, so me saying "Don't believe in it" is not the same as a North American saying "Don't believe in it". So I won't vote.HuddledMass said:for you in countries that tipping is not the norm... that's why there's the "don't want to" and "don't believe in it" option... because any country you CAN tip...
The following isn't quite my own view, but since we're discussing tipping I'll take the excuse to post a clip from Reservoir Dogs - it starts with Mr Pink (Steve Buscemi) justifying why he doesn't tip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nLIbkjGzdA
It works for me. Maybe it's a browser thing?randommaster said:Link does not work.Fraser.J.A said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nLIbkjGzdA
Which was exactly *my* view earlier. Someone mentioned the manager justifies paying a lower wage because of tips - so basically, you're taking a job, to earn money, you accept the wages you're offered for the job, then expect people to haul you through as you go along. Sorry, but I work hard for my money and even if I feel that I deserve more, I get paid the amount I agreed to when I started my job (pay raise not withstanding).Fraser.J.A said:The following isn't quite my own view, but since we're discussing tipping I'll take the excuse to post a clip from Reservoir Dogs - it starts with Mr Pink (Steve Buscemi) justifying why he doesn't tip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nLIbkjGzdA