Poll: How the flight from your parent's nest equates to a nation under water... Or not...

Borrowed Time

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Rambling ensues. If you wish to skip the backstory, scroll down for the tl;dr.

Rambling commencing in 3... 2... 1... initiated.

As my wife is Filipino, we've had a more pressing reason to be keeping a close eye on the news about the massive flooding and storms hitting the island nation of the Philippines then most. A crowded urban population, coupled with a limited infrastructure, a lack of drainage systems, a large amount of undeveloped land and a ravaged countryside from over harvesting of resources has left the nation in a state of shock.

A tropical storm and typhoon have already pummeled the nation leaving the capital, Manila, eighty percent flooded and in some areas, even three weeks after the storms, waist deep water persists. Yet another typhoon is expected to hit soon and the population is bracing for the worst.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/weather/10/19/philippines.storms/index.html

Now, my wife has an interesting stance on the situation, as she believes that the Philippines should never have become an independent nation from the United States and should have remained as a territory, one reason being to deal with this exact type of scenario.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_the_Philippines

She states that for reasons from the economic variety to the infrastructural, the Philippines, in essence, "shot itself in the foot." The exports of the Philippines are fairly limited as, like Japan, they have a very limited area of land mass. Unfortunately, unlike Japan, they don't have the economic structure to support a manufacturing, heavy consumer or technology based economy.

http://www.ask.com/web?q=exports+of+the+philippines&search=&qsrc=0&o=0&l=dir

This got me to thinking :)gasp: such a novel idea! Thinking?!) As many of the Escapists are of an age that their independence from their parents or guardians is being further developed and matured, or has just recently occured, do you think it's wise to stay with your "parents" for as long as possible, before you strike out into the world as your own entity, thus making sure that you are as prepared as possible.

TL;DR version -

Many Escapists are beginning the process of breaking away from their parents. Is it better to stay with your parents and prepare yourself for as long as possible for the life to come, or set out on your own with less preparation but more adventure? Are lessons learned through failure and mistakes where only you are there to pick yourself up better teachers then our own parents?

Also, as a side note for those who wish to comment, what could be done in the Philippines to remedy the situations they are facing with their limited resources, or even any comments on the plight of the Filipino nation or people at all?
 

twistedshadows

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I'll definitely stay until I feel prepared to fully support myself. I'm on good terms with my mom, though. People who don't get along with their parents would likely want to move out sooner.
 

ottenni

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I have no need to leave just yet. I would like to but financially i am not ready to. Of course i am not particularly worried about chasing work in areas other than where i live i think it would be wiser to start of in the immediate area.
 

Monkfish Acc.

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Personally, I want to leave as soon as possible.
I can take care of myself. Hell, I can take care of myself plus someone else. I'd say I'm about ready.

Some people, however, do need a kick.
Sure, it's probably not good to leave until you're ready, but if you're thirty years old and still don't feel like it's time to leave, then it's likely that you're never going to be.

Fantastic OP, by the way.
 

IckleMissMayhem

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I have left home, but have had to move back in with my parents. Not enjoying the experience, as most of my friends live nowhere near. Oh, and the Northwest of England is soooooo not a good place to be looking for jobs right now!
 

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Independence is best learnt slowly over several stages of increasing freedom and self-determination.

University / College often provides a really good stepping stone (definitely did for me) between living at home with the parents and building my own life.

On the country analogy, take a look at Greenland. It's slowly working through the process of becoming independent from Denmark - and weirdly is becoming more economically successful because of global warming.
 

Borrowed Time

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Monkfish Acc. said:
Personally, I want to leave as soon as possible.
I can take care of myself. Hell, I can take care of myself plus someone else. I'd say I'm about ready.

Some people, however, do need a kick.
Sure, it's probably not good to leave until you're ready, but if you're thirty years old and still don't feel like it's time to leave, then it's likely that you're never going to be.

Fantastic OP, by the way.
Why thank you.

Aye, personally, I moved out when I was 17, though had some rough waters and can admit that I probably wasn't ready at the time. My financial maturity was fairly high, but I was naive when it came to the real world and have had to learn some hard lessons along the way that my parents could never have taught me.

IckleMissMayhem said:
I have left home, but have had to move back in with my parents. Not enjoying the experience, as most of my friends live nowhere near. Oh, and the Northwest of England is soooooo not a good place to be looking for jobs right now!
Don't let it get to you. I had to move back home for 6 months after my roommate skipped out on me leaving me with the entirety of our rent and bills. Be fortunate that you have a good enough relationship with your parents still that they didn't just slam the door in your face. Some people don't have that luxury of a safe place to dust themselves off before they set out again.
 

Kiutu

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My parents seem to think I should just know how to do everything. I have ultimatly shunned them away because they WONT take better care of me. I was not unwilling to 'still hold mommy's hand' if I felt I needed to, but she seemed to prefer to just push me out.
 

DeadlyYellow

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Being a typical male, I'll try to stay at home as long as I can. It saves money over renting a place allowing me to build up a financial backing. Plus I am covered by my dad's health insurance until I hit 25 if I stay.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
I'm 14, but I really want to leave as soon as possible (I really want the freedom, having barely tasted it for 14 years).
Though I hope you don't scoff at what I have to say, knowing what I do now, I hope that you take the time to take advantage of what you do have right now. Delving too fast into pure freedom can be a culture shock, especially when the ugly parts of freedom catch you by surprise after it's been put on a pedastle in your mind.

And this poster...

JemJar said:
Independence is best learnt slowly over several stages of increasing freedom and self-determination.
Has a very good point. Taking it slow and in steps can help prevent that shock.

JemJar said:
On the country analogy, take a look at Greenland. It's slowly working through the process of becoming independent from Denmark - and weirdly is becoming more economically successful because of global warming.
I haven't done any research on Greenland myself, and find that rather interesting really. It sounds like they are doing the exact opposite of the Philippines. Although the Philippines were also slight victims of circumstance themselves. Being at the center of the Pacific Theatre of WWII certainly didn't help their situation. Unfortunately, the USA actually stifled their economy to a degree when they obtained independence, all so that they could actually get the promised "war relief funds". Quite an interesting read really.

Kiutu said:
My parents seem to think I should just know how to do everything. I have ultimatly shunned them away because they WONT take better care of me. I was not unwilling to 'still hold mommy's hand' if I felt I needed to, but she seemed to prefer to just push me out.
I'm sorry to hear that, especially seeing that you're barely getting out of your teens. (Yay for early August birthdays btw!) I've found that as much as my parents taught me through their lessons what I should do in my life, there are also plenty of things that they taught me through their actions that I shouldn't do. I hope that you can take this experience in stride and apply it to your own family someday as how not to treat your kids. (if you do or plan to have any)
 

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Borrowed Time said:
I'm sorry to hear that, especially seeing that you're barely getting out of your teens. (Yay for early August birthdays btw!) I've found that as much as my parents taught me through their lessons what I should do in my life, there are also plenty of things that they taught me through their actions that I shouldn't do. I hope that you can take this experience in stride and apply it to your own family someday as how not to treat your kids. (if you do or plan to have any)
(I hate when people reply like you did, makes replying back annoying, just putting that out there)
I know, I will be nothing like them. My boyfriend and I both have bad parents and have discussed already how we will make sure to be loving caring parents unlike them. Ofcourse we have the advantage of not being drunk pot heads too who are 30+ and act like 17 year olds.
Would have been nicer to learn through example though. Most of what I seem to know is from seeing everyone do it wrong.
 

El Poncho

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Once I get a steady income I guess, until then I will live with my mum and dad after 18 until I do so(or until my dads paid me back £2000 pounds he took out my bank account). I am aiming to go to university so I either move to where the uni is or I stay with my parents until i've finished uni(if the uni is close)
 

Samurai Goomba

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It might not be obvious from my profile, but I'm still living at home. With the job situation the way it is, and our finances the way it is, and chronic illness problems and such... Eh, it's just better I stick around to minimize expenses.

I'll probably move out at some point in the next couple of years (I'm 20), but until then I'm focusing on my college studies.

As for the Philippines, is the US not helping them? I know for a fact that the US will throw millions of dollars at countries we have no affiliation with whatsoever. I guess there's nothing on the Islands we want? But... They have Coconuts over there!

I think it's probably not a bad idea for islands to be allied with or part of some large land mass of a country. It provides easy access to food, drinkable water (if that's an issue) and disaster relief, which is certainly always an issue when you're living on an inactive volcano in the middle of an ocean full of mean things with big teeth.
 

secretsantaone

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Surely for most people it would be as soon as they go to uni/get a full time job/get married.

So when you're ready to survive on your own.