Poll: Is Anything Possible?

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Eldritch Warlord

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I'm a firm believer that anything is possible. The proper technology or evolution can result in any seemingly magical event or property. Seriously, look at human history, how could anyone deny that anything can potentially be accomplished?

Though skimming through this thread it seems like many people think that a highly specific and improbable event not occurring within a limited time-period is proof against this.

Which is a rather weird argument, just because something can happen doesn't mean that it will.
 

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Aylaine said:
Still, I don't feel convinced that world peace is attainable with free will.
But not having free will would suck more cuz then everyone would be mindless zombies, no one would have any personality. World Peace would only be obtained when something so fucking huge causes mankind to band together and forget about past grievances.
 

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Shankity Stick said:
I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions. My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible. But by all means, try to disprove something to me.
P.S. anyone trying to disprove something visual I?m sick of repeating my self so here goes, maybe x is happening, you just don't realize it.
Depends on how specific you get. I can definitely say, without question, that the me of this dimension, in this life now, the one individual typing this message on this exact forum on this exact planet in this exact universe, has never, at any point, stolen the original copy of the Constitution of the United States.

If you can get specific enough, you can disprove certain things and know for sure what hasnt happened, and prove it is so. However, it isnt possible to prove anything than your own personal experiences and the future is impossible to guess, and so possibilities cant be disproven when referring to the future.
 

blalien

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Given a circle, you can't create a square with the same area using a compass and straightedge.
 

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Shankity Stick said:
Maybe not in this reality, but in an alternate dimension I might be.
This might be the flaw in your logic. You can't judge one universe and its laws of nature by the laws of another.
 

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crudus said:
F-I-D-O said:
Very...disturbing...comparison.

OT: Some things are impossible such as circles with four corners, my computer running Crysis, and DRM working out.
(you references OP from now on)
Even in other dimensions there are laws which CANNOT be broken, hence there are impossible things. And since there is more than likely one such law that binds the dimensions together that all of them follow. This law likely cannot be broken, and since you cannot prove such a law does NOT exist (another impossibility-proving something doesn't exist) you cannot make a rebuttal.
That isn't how logic works. That was also a logical fallacy, sadly I don't have them all memorized yet. Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack which means you can't say "there isn't evidence to disprove it therefore it is true". Granted you do not make that claim exactly but you do claim that all my arguments are invalid. Most of all saying "there isn't evidence to disprove it" doesn't say anything; it is a weightless statement. You need evidence to back things up, not lack of disproving evidence.
By OP I meant original poster on thread, aka the topic post. YOU (crudus) had said that there are things that are impossible. I AGREE with this.
One cannot prove that anything does not exist, the point I was trying to make. This can also mean that one cannot prove anything does exist.

I wasn't claiming your arguments were invalid, I claimed that ShankityStick's arguments were wrong.
I used your quote for the very...disturbing...comparison line/failed attempt at being witty.
 

crudus

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F-I-D-O said:
I wasn't claiming your arguments were invalid, I claimed that ShankityStick's arguments were wrong.
I used your quote for the very...disturbing...comparison line/failed attempt at being witty.
I am aware. Just because you are on my side in an argument doesn't mean I won't call you out on it if you argue using fallacies and things that aren't even logical.
 

Xanadu84

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I can disprove the idea that your conciousness does not exist in any way, shape of form, because there is a you processing this very concept.

Granted, I personally can't know for sure that I am doing this, because I can't see from your perspective. But you can, and I suspect that you know that a you exists in some way.
 

Dungus

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It's quite simple really. Anything other than this reality, like the other dimensions you speak of, is not part of this reality. Therefore anything other than this reality is not real in our perception.

Reality X =/= reality Y, so nothing in reality Y applies to reality X, which means it's silly to think about what is possible anywhere other than our reality.

Our perception is the only one that matters, that is why unexisting or unproven entities are also unimportant, until they are proven.
 

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Proof is left for systems where we have a full set of axioms from which to begin as well as assurances that aristotelian logic is the logic of choice. We simply do not have this sort of epistemic access to any part of reality. That's why even things like gravity and electromagnetism are theories and not truly "laws of nature." That being said, I do not believe in anything like magic, religion or other types of silliness. That sort of thing has never been shown to have any sort of predictive power like the scientific method has.
 

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Shankity Stick said:
I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions. My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible. But by all means, try to disprove something to me.
P.S. anyone trying to disprove something visual I?m sick of repeating my self so here goes, maybe x is happening, you just don't realize it.
Chuck Norris being weak in ANY dimension.
Disprove it.
 

The Iconnorclast

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Yep, I believe anything is possible, if only because to believe the other way around would mean a pretty bleak existence. Plus its a hell of a lot more fun to believe anything is possible than to set limits for yourself.

Edit: Slightly after posting this, it got dark outside and a hailstorm happened, it lasted for a minute or two then it stopped and two rainbows appeared. Coincedence? Don't know, but its pretty cool either way.
 

capin Rob

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a human being moveing at the speed of light and spontanousley stoping with out bodily harm.
 

Miumaru

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I just wrote a paragraph explaining why not anything is possible, but it is very anti-christianity, and instead of turning this into a religious debate (and getting into trouble), have omitted it.
 

crudus

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Aylaine said:
Possible, but is it plausible?

That was on a much smaller scale though then two entire countries coming to peace/terms with their differences. It's a good example though, but I don't think you can really compare them and try to convince me that countries will do the same thing. :/
This thread isn't for arguing whether it is plausible or not. If the alien race declares war all at once then I would say it is probable but if say the aliens take out a random country I am not sure the rest of the world would be willing to jump up.
 

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Shankity Stick said:
I dare anyone to disprove ANYTHING, if you factor in magic, other planets, and alternate dimensions. My logic is that we can't prove that something definitely doesn't exist/ happen somewhere out there. That is the one thing that is impossible. But by all means, try to disprove something to me.
P.S. anyone trying to disprove something visual I?m sick of repeating my self so here goes, maybe x is happening, you just don't realize it.
well in a world where anything is possible than the only thing you cant do is something immpossible
 

tthor

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rather than get into a loong discussion bout this, i think the "Matrix" paradox is enough to prove my point. you have no way of proving you are in the Matrix, but how can you say for sure you aren't? the same argument can easily extend to everything we think we know about reality and sciences