Poll: Killzone Trilogy or Resistance Collection?

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Johnny Novgorod

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Never played any of these games.
Both collections have the same price.

Killzone Trilogy has Killzone (HD remake), Killzone 2 and Killzone 3. Includes some DLC. Only the third game has co-op, as well as online multiplayer.

Resistance Collection has Resistance: Fall of Man, Resistance 2 and Resistance 3. Includes some DLC. Every game supports local co-op, though online multiplayer has been disabled as of last year.

I'm leaning towards Resistance because of Insomniac Games + local co-op, which is a big plus for me. But I don't know. I know nothing about these games except that they're military shooters with an alien twist, and Yahtzee had nothing but praise for Resistance 3 (AKA Half-Life 2) while he was pretty meh about Killzone 3. Yet Killzone seems to be the more popular franchise, going by forum debates.

Which one should I get?
 

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I'm not familiar with Killzone (own 2 but I have yet to play it), but I am with Resistance.

Resistance 3 is a must have, think of it like Half-Life 2 with a neat little story to go with it (even if not brilliant). Nice set pieces and the like, too. Resistance 1 and 2 are more bog standard FPSs that are somewhat lifted by the alien soldier enemies. Yes, Gears of War already did the same theme better, but Resistance 1 certainly earned some props for the World War II aesthetic on top of the alien blasting business.
 

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Tough choice.

Killzone HD fixes most stuff that wasn't done well in its original release, Killzone 2 is one of the few military shooters I like (though be aware, the last chapter has a massive difficulty spike) and Killzone 3 is pretty good aswell, dispite the some of the maps going against the the established lore about Helghan.

As for Resistance, first one is good, second one fell into the MMS (modern military shooter) trope and I really dislike it since it threw away everything that set Resistance apart from other series. Resistance 3 is the best in the series imo since it ditched everything that made 2 horrible.

Personally, I would pick Killzone. Sure it goes for the military shooter trope I would despise but movement has weight to it. Killzone HD is great since it requires thinking to some extend (and only features partial health regen).
 

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I'm a huge fan of both. But i'll list some points so you'll know what to expect and perhaps be better armed to choose

Killzone (let's call it K1) let's you choose from four distinct characters with three distinct playstyles. These vary from a Vektan rifleman, a sniper/scout type, a heavy weapons guy and a helghan spy. the vektan and helghan are similar, but the vektan can use enemy weapons with more efficiency. The spy has some stealth-like sections and is better with sniper rifles, and the heavy weapons guy just kills stuff and eats bullets. Dialogues are well written and the story is great, but the environments are invariably gray. Gray city, gray park, gray swamp, gray gunship and gray base. Regenerating health style of thing. Still one of my top shelf games for simply being fun. An HD remake couldn't have hurt. Most notable anecdote : you'll hear when the enemy uses their grenade launchers (thump sounds) and on hard difficulty, hearing that sound means you are dead, no matter what.

Killzone 2, does not have separate classes but ups the ante quite a bit in their environments and with the array of enemies you'll be facing. This time you'll be facing harder enemies, and scarier ones. You'll have some adrenaline rushed moments, as well as the ordinary cover-shoot-cover gameplay. It has one of the very few good examples of a tutorial level. Sadly, you have to look for the story quite a bit since they don't slap it on as thick as in K. Once you find the story, it does make sense though. Has a bit of a love-hate thing going with the sixaxis controls. End fight is satisfyingly epic. Most notable anecdote : It contains a weapon that shoots exploding steel bars, on the website at the time it read something like 'used in contruction work, it shoots rivets into inch thick steel, which then explode causing it to be welded in.'

Killzone 3, Huge epic battles with dropships and enormous walking tanks, aswell as stealth sections and exoskeleton bits. Most varied in it's gameplay. Just playable as the one dude. Story is a tad bit heavier than 2, and it borders on the line of 'what?'. Had some intense adrenaline filled moments, as well as tedious cases of dieing for the Nth time. Again with the sixaxis thing, but less so as in 2. Meleekills are nice and squishy and satisfying. The story get's nicely wrapped up, even though room is still left for sequels (killzone shadowfall). All in all, you won't get bored in this game due to it's constant variety, without having to look up new controls all the time

Killzone overall : Weapons are nice and varied, so you'll get to pick your favourite. Uses the two-gun rule and it's sometimes hard to choose. The atmosphere in these games is intense and engaging. All of the games are fun, and overall they get a score by me of 80%

Resistance : fall of man. WW2 styled shooter if the nazis were aliens. Guns are nice and varied, and well designed and fun to play with. Yahtzee already gave the twist away that happens with the story, but it was a cool moment first run through. Game gives you some replay value in adding to the selection of guns on your second run. The backstory is nice and cool. The game has a near perfect pace, and the character design and variety in environment is good. I loved it, it even had decent multiplayer. Health is done with old school medkits, and at the end you'll recieve regen powers. Most notable moment : the alien assault rifle has tagging shots, so you can tag a particularly hard enemy and all your shots will hit him if you go and sit behind a rock somewhere.

Resistance 2 : they took something that was good to begin with, and cut out all the good. Medkits are gone and replaced by regenerating health *edit : i'm unsure about the health thing here, it's been a while since i played it* . Story sucks balls and doesn't feel organic. The maps seem to have been copy pasted from res1. The only good part was the magnum that shot exploding bullets. It was the worst of the trilogy, but they may have fixed some of the minor issues in the bundle. Most notable anecdote : you get to fight a kraken.

Resistance 3 : a rollercoaster ride. True shining beacon in shooterland. I've only played two shooters that came close to this level of perfection (wolfenstein : new order and Killzone 3). Gameplay is fun and varied, they went back to the style of the first game for just about everything. The story is good, and the environment is amazing. You'll go from broken down streets to a gang-runned prison thing to a train/vehicle section to alien bases. The guns are fun and have a decent impact. It did feel a bit too easy though, even on hard.

Resistance overall : if it wasn't for the 3d installment, there would have been a clear cut choice between these two bundles. Resistance 2 brings the average score down to 70%, but you'll have fun in this trilogy. The tone is a bit lighter than you'd expect from

If i were you, i'd go with the killzone trilogy. The antagonists in these games are better written, can have conflicting motivations and are generally written as human beings. The atmosphere in these is also more serious and engaging. On the other hand, Resistance offers simpler, clear cut motivations and has a lighter tone throughout. But i've seen the whole 'post-apocalyptic american suburbia' one too many times.

Killzone did leave room for further sequels, if you're inclined to think that's a good thing, and resistance seems to have wrapped it tight.

I may have confused you further, but to my mind this is a hard choice to make.
 

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I borrowed the original Kill Zone from a friend and I couldn't get into it. Resistance was why I bought a PS3. I loved all three while openly admitting that it felt like three totally different groups somehow used the same art style to make three different types of games. The first was a World War II shooter with monsters and super powers. The second felt like an 80's horror movie but with lots of guns, and the third was a post apocalyptic game done well. I remember playing Resistance three after playing Homefront and thinking, "This is what Homefront wanted to be." With that said most people seem to like both series so if you have the time and the price is right, give both a try.
 

Poetic Nova

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Bizzaro Stormy said:
I borrowed the original Kill Zone from a friend and I couldn't get into it.
I shared similar feelings when I first bought Killzone 1. The thing is, it takes awhile to pick up its pace and it was hard to look pass the few flaws it had. It was pretty much too much game for the PS2 to handle at points, leading to lot of slowdown, LOD models being used instead of high poly ones due to not loading fast enough and a handfull of mapping errors.

The first 2 are thankfully fixed in its HD re-release, not sure about the mapping though.
 

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Killzone = Better gameplay
Resistance = Better story.

That's really what it comes down to. Last gen Playstaton FPS games were not exactly anything worth while. Too much and also too little effort was placed into creating "Halo-killer" and all we got was these two bland series of games. Which, funny enough, took more from Gears than Halo, at least in aesthetics.

Killzone has pretty decent gameplay though. Except for the second one where the devs decided to show weight in weapons, leading to aiming to being complete shit. Killzone 3 fixed this issue when the devs realize how stupid that idea was.

As for Resistance? Gameplay wise, the weapon ideas are fun to play with, but the games themselves leave a lot to be desired. Story wise, there's something there I felt had potential. But the devs never did spend enough time investing in those possibilities to take it somewhere more interesting.

All in all, I'd say give both a try, just to see what Sony went with doing to compete with Xbox at the time, who's shooters were way more interesting (for the time that is).

Talking about Halo-killers. Anyone remember Haze? Ewww!! >XP
 

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Resistance Collection (at least, from the single-player point of view). Killzone was fun. It will always be fun. All of the games were fun. The latest one was the most fun. BUT, they were never as fun to me as the Resistance series. Resistance had its dark moments, and slow moments, but the Weapons, Man! The Auger! That was funner than Hell! And the fact that you could carry so many at once! Resistance bought me with that armory that you could carry around with you. That, and it held that old-timey theme that I love from the old Call of Duty, and especially Fallout! That look of the future meeting with the past was something I liked. Resistance has my vote.
 

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For me, it's Resistance, bar none. I thought Killzone had great graphics and weapon's sounds, but that was about it. The Helghast were a lame effort to essentially make "Space Nazis", except they screwed up the part where we're supposed to hate them and root for the heroes by making the ISA basically every cliché of 'bad ass rogues who don't play by the rules!" imaginable. It's definitely one of those games that falls under the "I wish the bad guys would win" category for me.

Resistance 1 was good, 2 was sort of stinker because it decided to switch to become a modern military shooter, which was a terrible design decision. But it's all redeemed with 3, which is easily one of my top FPS games of all time. Not only are the weapons and enemies fantastic, the set pieces are great, the story is shockingly heartfelt and well done, your weapons upgrade themselves as the game goes (both visually and with new features, not just 'does 10% more damage now'), and the game is just a flat-out blast.
 

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I'm throwing my vote in for Resistance as well. I have two reasons.

Reason 1 is that Resistance: Fall of Man delivered, at least on its first game. The trailers showed epic battles with allies and enemies on all sides. Yes, there are several points where you solo it, but there are just as many where you are dropped into the middle of a war with other soldiers. The opening levels are a blast to play, and the final level actually has you fighting alongside AI soldiers. That is unheard of.
Resistance 2 dropped the ball big time in that department, along in pretty much every other department. Took away all the things that made the first one fun. It is, without a doubt, a black eye on the series.
Resistance 3 I enjoyed, but I don't think it's the greatest game like everyone else. Yes, it's varied and everything from the first game is back, but the grand battles from the first game are gone. Still fun to play though, if you don't want multiplayer.
The only downside, to me, is that the story isn't finished and it's looking like it never will be. The Chimera are suggested to be running from something, and that their invasion reeked of desperation, not attacking. This other force is never explored though, and with the company dropping the franchise, that mystery is probably going to remain.

Reason 2 is that Killzone lied to me. Multiple times. The trailers make it look like you are going to be in these huge battles. I mean, watch the infamous PS3 demo for Killzone 2, or the bullet trailer for 3, and you'll see what I mean. All games have about three levels like this, and then you are on your own. The characters are also annoying macho "RARGH!" guys all around. Rico, I wanted to shoot myself. The story is just boring and forgettable for me, and nothing makes the games stand out for me besides how the Helghast look.
 

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I'd like to go with Kill Zone.... KZ1 gets you into the world between ISA and Helghast. The series is best with KZ2 and KZ3. The fighting is intense at time ( Especially KZ2) and in KZ3 its all about the personalities of the bad guys and how the story wraps up. Really great action/military game to play..... but unfortunately then you'll wind up at some point playing Shadowfall and although it has great graphics, the story is garbage and the plot is seriously stupid ( IMO). If there is a Mystery Science Theater 3000 for games, one could turn Kill Zone ShadowFall into its best laugh-track laden comedy skit.

As for Resistance 1 skip 2 and get 3. One and Three are the best of the games because they mess with the mechanics in No.2 to the point where you'll simply be mad. Anytime a shooter introduces something that can't be killed even when you have a damn rocket launcher as a weapon that can pretty much put holes into large and nasty creatures is absurd in its own right.

Resistance 3 is graphically smooth. Very smooth. The only thing I didn't like about the Resistance games was that the horror aspect got a little old for me and the whole " Creepy things growing on everything " was simply being over-done. I guess for me, I could more relate to Kill Zone since its not all that too far away from weapons you would use today and the enemy isn't so supernatural like the Chimera.

At the end of the day... both series are pretty in-expensive so... why not get both at some point?
 

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FYI, Resistance 2 does not have a local co-op.

That's the problem with Resistance franchise, there is really no consistency that makes a franchise... a franchise. If I had a power to reboot any video game franchise, it would definitely be Resistance.

Resistance 1: A military shooter that allows for multiple weapons (has co-op)
Resistance 2: A military shooter that only allows for 2 weapons (does not have co-op, which alienated my co-op partner)
Resistance 3: A survival shooter, in perspective of a ex-military family man, allows for multiple weapons (has co-op)

Resistance 3 is more of my taste but I have my bones to pick with the game. If you're looking for a satisfying co-op experience, I do not recommend Resistance 3. There are couple of bugs that stops the progress of the game that I had to play certain parts solo to get past it.

And I know Yahtzee made fun of Resistance 3 for copying Half Life 2... but I think it falls short of being a great game because it didn't copy Half Life 2 enough. The game is about a man's journey from mid-west(?) to New York City but it feels less of a journey and more of segmented highlights. I think it would have been an excellent game if the game never left the player's 1st person perspective like Gordon Freeman.

So am I recommending Killzone over Resistance? I never played it but ....I guess?
 

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I'd go for Killzone. One of the best FPS last gen. I usually don't get swayed much by shooters anymore, but Killzone really ticked all the boxes for me. I loved the setting, although the characters are somewhat cliche. It's gritty though and super intense, way more so than other shooters, especially KZ2. It has some very memorable set pieces towards the end. Multiplayer in Killzone is excellent too. It feels very different to CoD or the like, but once you get a feel for it is immensely satisfying. Can't recommended the series enough.
 

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I would say neither.

Both franchises are Sony's extremely mediocre welfare IPs, and you can get a better experience from other similar games. They're not terrible or anything, but they just lack a concrete identity interms of story, setting, and gameplay.
 

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The Resistance games are pretty cool, but I found the Killzone games pretty forgettable. Not bad per se but nothing in any of the Killzone games stood out for me. Resistance had some really cool setpieces and awesome weapons and these were also dedicated SP FPS games(my favorite in a genre dominated by competitive MP). I really enjoyed all 3 games in the series(even 2 which doesn't seem to be liked that much by fans).

If they re-release the Resistance games in a single package I'll probably buy it(as its been a long time since I last played them) but I would rather see an entire new game designed specifically for PS4. Not that it says much, but the original Resistance was by far the best launch title on PS3.
 

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Be forewarned about Killzone 1, even with the HD version. The controls need a lot of tweaking to be functional, their default settings are really sluggish. Also, the audio outside of cutscenes is pretty jittery, with some really rough gun and microphone sound effects. Also lacking in ingame music.
 

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As much as I really enjoyed the entire Killzone series, I found the field of view too narrow with too much pretty effects on screen. Makes everything seem way to claustrophobic. Killzone 1 didn't really have this problem though, surprisingly. The HD remaster was pretty good.

Admittedly, Resistance isn't that much better, but it is slightly more open and doesn't make me as sick.

It's hard to tell which is better though for me personally. They're both pretty equal. Well made shooters that have areas of action, down time, and immersion. (The water effects in Resistance 2 and 3 are still very impressive, even if sometimes over-exaggerated)

I'd guess I'd say the Resistance collection, since each game is about 10-14 hours long depending on difficulty, where Killzone ranges about 6-8 hours. At least that's my experience.
 

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MirenBainesUSMC said:
At the end of the day... both series are pretty in-expensive so... why not get both at some point?
At some point, definitely, but right now I can only get the one.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Never played any of these games.
Both collections have the same price.

Killzone Trilogy has Killzone (HD remake), Killzone 2 and Killzone 3. Includes some DLC. Only the third game has co-op, as well as online multiplayer.

Resistance Collection has Resistance: Fall of Man, Resistance 2 and Resistance 3. Includes some DLC. Every game supports local co-op, though online multiplayer has been disabled as of last year.

I'm leaning towards Resistance because of Insomniac Games + local co-op, which is a big plus for me. But I don't know. I know nothing about these games except that they're military shooters with an alien twist, and Yahtzee had nothing but praise for Resistance 3 (AKA Half-Life 2) while he was pretty meh about Killzone 3. Yet Killzone seems to be the more popular franchise, going by forum debates.

Which one should I get?
I've been a long time fan of The Escapist (Zero Punctuation), and I found this thread by Googling a similar question. So I registered and figured I'd share my $0.02.

I bought my PS3 in 2013 and finished out my list this past Xmas. I have a PC, so I was really looking for console / PS3 exclusives. I ended up getting the following series: God of War, Infamous, Resistance, and Uncharted.

I tried the demos of each game (the 1st if it was a series) and made my decisions that way.

The only collection I'm still considering is Killzone.

The KZ2 demo didn't impress me; it was super short and I had a hard time figuring out what to do. Ally soldiers were just yelling at me, and the enemy soldiers kept weren't very difficult to kill. It reminded me of the Halo series after Halo 1; a boring single player campaign because most of the focus was on multi player. But again, I only played the demo of KZ2.

Resistance 1 was fun. Good length demo, decently challenging, and I must admit the WWII / post-apocalypse vibe worked for me. Kinda reminded me of Fallout. And the series having offline split-screen co-op really appealed to me (yes, I know not *all* the games have that feature though).

The Resistance series can be bought for $16 total at GameStop ($3 for R1, $3 for R2, and $10 for R3; no coupons / discounts). For KZ if you want KZ1 in HD you need to get the trilogy, which is $20 new at GameStop, but was recently $15 new at Target. Not really worth buying the Resistance series new for the DLC IMO.

Seems like the consensus online is go Resistance for single player, and Killzone for multi player; guess it depends on what interests you more.

If Zero Punctuation reviews mean a lot to you, Yahtzee seemed to like R3 a lot more than KZ3.