I guess they can suspend your passport, but they won't do it for skipping out on paying child support. Either way, millions of men get away with not paying it around the world, so I can't relate child support as the same thing as a "baby contract" or whatever.Crono1973 said:Well, it is if they have already suspended your passport (which they do now). Obviously they do that to prevent people from moving out of their jurisdiction.Verlander said:Moving to somewhere under a different judicial system isn't illegal. Child support isn't always mandatoryCrono1973 said:There is no legal way around child support unless you can prove (at your expense) that the child is not yours and there is a time limit on that.Verlander said:I can't believe that you think that men can't, or don't get around that. I can't believe that you are arguing when I gave you a specific example of how to do so. I can't believe that the men you know can't find better lawyersCrono1973 said:You do know that courts order child support, don't you? You do know that men have to work for that money don't you?Verlander said:What court ordered labour? If they don't like having kids, they can leave. Hell, my old man moved to the other side of the world, I've never had a penny from him.Crono1973 said:So does your rule here apply to men and their court ordered labor as slavery?Verlander said:Gotta love a bunch of upset middle class white teenagers throwing their toys out of the pram because they are obviously discriminated against by everyone and everything. This idea is ridiculous and unreasonable, and no human should have a contract over another humans physical or psychological life. That's what we in the industry refer to as slavery.
Frankly, they have a responsibility, but they don't have to take it.
Court ordered labor. Can't believe I had to explain that.
If you are suggesting illegal activity, that is outside the scope of the discussion. Most men aren't willing to become criminals so they follow the law (if they can afford to) whether they agree with it or not.
The system is broken and finding ways around it is fine but the system won't be changed by people running from it, they will just keep making it worse for those who don't run.