Quote-unquote "Whovians" don't make up the majority of the show's viewership. Probably not even a substantial minority. Doctor Who is a show ultimately aimed at a younger audience, and the adult Doctor Who fandom is really akin to "Bronies" - a notable, passionate but ultimately unintentional audience, from the perspective of the creators.Lilani said:You really think the show will fail because a black Doctor steps onto the scene? Sure it'll cause controversy, but if anything I think it'll cause the truly decent Whovians to defend it even more.
And yet the Doctor has never been a woman. Nor has The Master, or Rassilon, and the Rani was never a man, was she?Lilani said:in the the Doctor's Wife episode the Doctor talks about a time lord called the Corsair, who "was a great man, or sometimes woman." Time Lords changing gender after regeneration is canon.
Are you sure they didn't have a problem with Martha? She had three stories that took place in a historical setting - Family of Blood, Daleks In Manhattan & The Shakespeare Code.Lilani said:They didn't have a problem with Martha, I think they only briefly mentioned that in just a couple of episodes. The only episodes that really did anything with that were the Family of Blood episodes, and that was only because the point of those episodes was to explore different aspects of the Doctor and Martha's characters (the Doctor as a human and Martha on her own). And they never address fact that the female companions would face the same problem in many time periods. In the way that the show already deals with this exact problem, this is a total non-issue.
Ah, that's a point. Last time they made Dr who for the fans, not the general audience...well, Colin Baker's run is much maligned.HellbirdIV said:Quote-unquote "Whovians" don't make up the majority of the show's viewership. Probably not even a substantial minority. Doctor Who is a show ultimately aimed at a younger audience, and the adult Doctor Who fandom is really akin to "Bronies" - a notable, passionate but ultimately unintentional audience, from the perspective of the creators.
Um, how does that work with your previous argument?HellbirdIV said:And yet the Doctor has never been a woman. Nor has The Master, or Rassilon, and the Rani was never a man, was she?
I've been thinking the same thing. Moffat writes some interestingly convoluted stories and such, but his character writing is terrible. No one develops and grows in a meaningful way (that lasts) and he's more fond of just coming up with more "End of the universe" type scenarios than with making the audience connect with the Doctor or the companions. Russell T Davies may have had some silly stories, but the characters were much stronger and more interesting to me.OneCatch said:This is EXACTLY what I've thought for ages. Moffat was great at single episodes, but it's like he just can't string an overarching plot together or something. The last few seasons have kind of been a soap in space.Flatfrog said:I'd agree with this - while being completely baffled by it, since during the RTD days, Moffat's scripts were uniformly the best. I was totally expecting him to take it over and make it awesome, and instead it's been a total mess. I can scarcely watch it, although I keep hanging in there.
I wonder if Gatiss might do a better job, but I'm nervous that the same thing would happen.
No, that's Christopher Lee, who used to walk in these woods but now has a mind of metal.Mr.Squishy said:
As much as I prefer Moffat to Russel T Davies, I did smile at this.Kaxbe said:I'd actually find it interesting if the next Doctor wasn't a white dude. The Doctor would probably be forced to approach certain situations differently.
However, if I were to change one thing about New Who, it'd just be to retcon the entire Moffat run semi-completely. If Moffat fans complain, we could always just claim it was a paradox~
Bingo. I think I can count on one hand the number of episodes of New Who I've seen that are genuinely memorable for reasons other than abject stupidity. (yes, between both Davies and Moffat.)Silvanus said:That all said, the direst problem with the show is the writing, not the doctor. It's not Sci-Fi; it's only pretending to be.
That is Christopher Lee. If he was a few decades younger he would pry make a good Doctor as well.Mr.Squishy said:
Well, gosh and golly, isn't my face just red now. Well, thanks for the heads-up.Bat Vader said:That is Christopher Lee. If he was a few decades younger he would pry make a good Doctor as well.Mr.Squishy said:
That wouldn't even take effort - the doctor got a new set during the time war because that's something they can do - see, for example, the master.Gordon_4 said:What's springing to my mind is some serious fucking retcons or ass-pulls are going to need to be made unless they can pin down the next Doctor for like a decade: this will be Regeneration 12, the last one.
I mean when they put this in after William Hartnell left, they probably didn't think they'd get that far.