It depends, there are genetic predispositions to obesity and then there are fat lazy people. it's impossible to tell without genetic testing but I'm willing to bet the majority of obese people are just lazy, like me.
TheNecroswanson said:I have a wonderful diet, I have a very active life. I'm doing an hour to almost up to three hours of aerobics and calisthenics a day. I weight train 3 times a week.
And yet I can't lose a single pound.
My friend, eats four times as much as I could eat in a day. He sleeps until noon, and never exercises except for once a month at his reserves drill.
yet he weighs 150 pounds.
There is far more to weight problems then "exercising, laziness, and diet.".
Uh, it's not JUST genetics. Obesity is a multifactorial illness, meaning it has genetic AND environmental factors. Medical groups know that the abundant amounts of energy-rich fatty foods has contributed to the problem, but genetics is a huge part of it as well.vivaldiscool said:People keep saying that calling it "genetics" is an excuse, and the provide absolutely no proof to back that statement up.
Cheeze_Pavilion said:ravens_nest said:Obesity is an illness caused by fat people becoming fatter. I'm not trying to be clever (i'm probably not anyway) but it doesn't matter what your lifestyle is, any medical problems you may have, genetics, becoming obese is entirely your fault.
Dr Dhurandhar's team took blood samples from people an obesity clinic.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7851031.stm
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As for fat people and health care costs:
http://www.slate.com/id/2184475/
You can live for 3 weeks without food. Some people can fast for longer than that.Cheeze_Pavilion said:If you quit food, you will die.Railu said:Drug addicts turn to drugs to ease their pain, overweight people turn to food. Heroin addicts can quit and so can you.
Why is it that the people who complain about fat people seem to always be so cruel and dumb?
That, I'm fat and I know it's my fault. All these "I'm just big boned *eats cake*" people piss me off, do something about it or admit it.GreenDevilJF said:There are exceptions, but I would much rather not consider obesity an illness but more a side effect of being lazy.
I...uh, wait, are you agreeing with me? I was talking to the people who say genetics "Is just an excuse."Inverse Skies said:Uh, it's not JUST genetics. Obesity is a multifactorial illness, meaning it has genetic AND environmental factors. Medical groups know that the abundant amounts of energy-rich fatty foods has contributed to the problem, but genetics is a huge part of it as well.vivaldiscool said:People keep saying that calling it "genetics" is an excuse, and the provide absolutely no proof to back that statement up.
Look at my previous post for examples on genetic problems which can cause weight issues.
Also, have you ever heard of a disease called Cushings? Cushings is a disease where to much cortisol is released from the adrenal glands leading to obesity because cortisol is a stress hormone which promotes the redistribution of body fat leading to obesity. Cushings is either caused by a cortisol secreting tumour on the adrenal gland, or a tumour of the pituitary gland causing an over release of ACTH (adrenocorticotrophic hormone) which stimulates the release of cortisol. That's a multifactorial illness with genetic and environmental factors that causes obesity. True it's not the cause of every obese individual but genetic factors ARE significant.
While I see what you're getting at, weight loss doesn't work like that at all.Railu said:You can live for 3 weeks without food. Some people can fast for longer than that.Cheeze_Pavilion said:If you quit food, you will die.Railu said:Drug addicts turn to drugs to ease their pain, overweight people turn to food. Heroin addicts can quit and so can you.
Why is it that the people who complain about fat people seem to always be so cruel and dumb?
Cut back to the bare minimum, wow, what a concept. Since you went there, I will also call names (idiot) since you also missed the point. That is why I said there is a difference between overweight people and people who over eat.
There is that timeless expression: you are what you eat. If you eat lots of crap, your body will be crap. I eat 1-2 meals a day. Not really that healthy, but I never said that you needed to be lean to be healthy. You can eat healthy food 3 times a day and still be large, those are not the people we're talking about. If you're happy gourging at an all-you-can fish n' chips buffet, all the power to you. But if you're not, don't do it.
How is that even controversial? It's basic will power. If you don't have the mental discipline to overcome it, at least be happy doing it and don't complain about the side effects.