erttheking said:
seveneddy said:
LifeCharacter said:
Dogstile said:
It's great to see that, when hunting for someone believed to be armed, dangerous, and capable of either taking hostages or harming more people either with explosives or through other means, the police must maintain an air of complete calm and a lack of any alertness or caution. Why believe that the person responsible for multiple explosives as well as the murder of a police officer is not on any of the properties and act accordingly in reasonable anticipation of more fighting? It's not like they should worry that another firefight might start up when they find him, or care about their own safety and that of the people around them, making the people whose homes they're asking to search feel as though their is absolutely no pressure on them to say yes is the most important thing.
Tell you what, find someone who said no and still had their home searched, or someone who said yes but felt like they were being threatened to do so, then you might have something, because everyone so far from Boston or who knows people from Boston seems to be appreciative of the police's response. But what the fuck do they know, it's not like it was their (or their friends'/families') rights supposedly being trampled, meaning that they're opinion is much more important on the matter than everyone else's.
Thats what I said. Nobody can say something against the police. They are all patriots and if they say something against the police they are criminals. Never had it a Terrorist so easy...
It's simple in america - even thought it wasn't always that simple.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin
btw. it's a really stupid idear to shoot at somebody that is known to build bombs...
You know, I have to say that as an American, police are not viewed as this infallible military police force. My family has had to deal with the police multiple times, and every time they were very calm, polite, and professional.
I've never had a problem with the police, and I don't really believe that these people felt threatened or intimidated into letting the police check their homes. Nor do I believe that is what the person who the last person quoted was saying.
This isn't simply a matter of having different ideals. You can have a different mindset in America. You can believe in different things. What those two men did was not just "knowing how to build a bomb", it was using their knowledge to kill, for no other reason than to kill.
Further, as several people have pointed out. There is a legal work around for just this sort of thing which a lot of you seem to be conveniently ignoring or outright refusing to acknowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_States_law
Not everything is a conspiracy, the government boogy man is not out to get you, and for the love of god, if you honestly believe that every man, and woman in the army, police, CIA, FBI, DHS, or whatever else have you, would actually help with a betrayal of the citizens of the US. Then you have a serious problem, and you need to see someone for help.