- Jul 21, 2009
Sure, the question is tho, do you make Zelda Male or leave her female?
I...don't really get your point here. Is it that I shouldn't want, ask for, or advocate for anything different, because I need to accept how things are?Agent Cross said:The simple issue is, this is a 25 year old franchise. So when the game says, "Our legendary hero appears..." one would think Link. You might not like it, I might not, but that's how it is.
I think some words got left out of your sentence, so I might not be answering the question you intended. If not, let me know and I'll try again.Agent Cross said:So are simply wishing to erase an established character or would you rather introduce a new female lead?
If Samus was a guy I like to imagine he'd look like Angel out of X-Men....yes please.Vault Citizen said:
Why is that so often said, but never:Darkbladex96 said:There are ways to mess up a female link. First and foremost would be making the exact same game and forcing Link to be female. A gender choice option should be used in that scenario.
But if Link it to be female, it should be at the reinvention the series, not because link is a female(well actually because of this), but because it would seem like a new chance to actually make link a character.
See how reversing the gender illustrates the false sense of entitlement? That they are entitled to forcing players to use a male protagonsit but cannot force players to play as a female.First and foremost would be making the exact same game and forcing Link to be MALE. A gender choice option should be used in that scenario.
The audience should know that each new Link is a TOTALLY NEW INDIVIDUAL! Chosen not because he is any reincarnation or reboot of a single individual, but because that thye are simply a Hylian has the courage to be a hero of Hyrule.Bruenin said:I don't have a complaint really I just don't think they should make Link female, it'd be a bit of a hassle story telling wise because they have an audience that expects a male character and they'd have to deal with that and it'd just be easier to star Zelda.JimB said:
You asked about the Goddess thing so i'm just trying to find a way to explain my reasoning better
I'm pretty sure the main three characters: Ganon, Link, and Zelda are all repeatedly reincarnated... I know Ganon and Zelda are at the very least.Treblaine said:The audience should know that each new Link is a TOTALLY NEW INDIVIDUAL! Chosen not because he is any reincarnation or reboot of a single individual, but because that they are simply a Hylian has the courage to be a hero of Hyrule.
That has ALWAYS been the case.SinisterGehe said:If Link would be a female link in next game, it wouldn't be "The Link" it would be a female character named Link.
Because she's royalty, it's hardly fitting of the theme that anyone may have the courage in their heart to vanquish evil if it "just to happens" to be in the person who's lived a pampered life of privilege.Magic Muffin Man said:No, because Zelda's story has always been a riff on old adventure stories and fairy tales where the adventurer was a young man going through a hero's journey. Besides, you've got a female character in Zelda already, why not give her a game to adventure in?
Ganon(dorf) seems to be not so much reincarnated between each game, he seem to be immortal or some ability to resurrect himself. Even if those two originally came from gods, that's NOT THE CASE WITH LINK! The hero protagonist known as "Link" is just a courageous commoner.Bruenin said:I'm pretty sure the main three characters: Ganon, Link, and Zelda are all repeatedly reincarnated... I know Ganon and Zelda are at the very least.Treblaine said:The audience should know that each new Link is a TOTALLY NEW INDIVIDUAL! Chosen not because he is any reincarnation or reboot of a single individual, but because that they are simply a Hylian has the courage to be a hero of Hyrule.
spoilers I guess
Ganon is the reincarnation of Demise, Zelda is the reincarnation of the original Goddess Hylia, and Link was a childhood friend of Zelda's who became the hero of time. Three people whose struggle is never ending, passed on from generation to generation, it'd kind of make sense that each time they came about they'd be connected :/ more so than just meeting up and being courageous but I guess you can argue against that.
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And it has nothing to do with sexism, it's not that I don't think a girl can do it, it's I don't think they should just add it in for no reason. The Legend of Zelda just doesn't seem like the type of game to have customization like that... It'd be like adding a bunch of appearance sliders, it just seems pointless.
If I thought women couldn't do anything why would I suggest Zelda be the heroine? Last time I checked she was a women :/
You really like going on about sexism, turn Mario into a woman, Peach into a man, Samus into a man, Link into a girl, Megaman into Megagirl.Treblaine said:
Bruenin said:You really like going on about sexism, turn Mario into a woman, Peach into a man, Samus into a man, Link into a girl, Megaman into Megagirl.Treblaine said:
It doesn't really matter, I just think it's pointless, if you want a female character there is much better options, but apparently you can't have trends without them being judgmental? What if there was never a chance for a female hero? or What if there was other factors forcing the hero to be male, I don't see how having a male hero would suddenly it a sexist trend... it's not implying anything, that's the way they originally had it and they just kept it that way.
Crying sexism just because they don't mix up genders every now and then seems a bit of an over reaction. Maybe if the game made all women out to be weak and useless and always needed help from male saviors... but in recent games Zelda even helps you fight Ganon, she normally only gets captured because she was ambushed, not because she lost on fair ground, not because she couldn't take care of herself.
ex... She evaded Ganon for 7 years, and only got captured when she let her guard down to talk to Link in Ocarina of time.
I just don't see how there is this big sexist trend that must absolutely be destroyed.
Not to mention that she actually has a sword in twilight princess. Maybe a focus on magic with the sword as a last resort/method of killing certain enemies? Also, she wield the light arrows in a lot of games.JediMB said:I could go with a female Link, or simply putting Zelda in the main protagonist role for a while.
I've been advocating a "Zelda Mode" (similar to Castlevania's "Belmont Mode") as a first step towards that for ages. More of a focus on magic, what with her connection to the Triforce of Wisdom.
Woah, easy there. It's just an opinion. Bear in mind that LoZ's origin stories are rather messy. I'm not sure anyone knows what's going on for sure.Treblaine said:le snip
Many later games have prophetic characters recount prior events with unequivocal clarity.rosac said:
Zelda's Quest is a Zelda game with her as the protagonist. It may have been bad, but it is still what you're technically asking for.[Kira Must Die said:]I'd actually liked to see a Zelda game with Zelda as the main character. She has proven herself to be a capable fighter in several of the games, at least more so than someone like Princess Peach. Instead of items she could gain different spells to get around dungeons and solve puzzles. Just as Link has to face several trials to prove that he's a true hero, She should also be facing several trials to prove herself as well, or perhaps a more traditional setting where Link's the one in trouble and Zelda has to save him instead. I think this would be more of a breath of fresh air than just simply genderbending Link.