- Jul 7, 2010
That's why you have a normal and Special Olympics rather then getting normal and special Olympians to compete against each other.Elamdri said:I could see and understand that within a competitive environment, like MLG, although I don't know any MLG PC gamers who would use joysticks. But for just casual online play, it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me to disallow the option. I can't conceive of a joystick player receiving SO much aim assistance from a game that he/she could CONSISTENTLY beat a player of equal skill using a mouse. Because really, that's the concern, that all things being equal, aim assist on a joystick would tip the scales too often to be explained by random chance, and I just don't think that's the case.Continuity said:The problem is: What if the joypad users start winning? their skill/controls are being propped up aim assistance... could you take the result seriously if a player using a controller and aim assistance won a competition knocking out M+kb players?Elamdri said:Having played both PC and Console FPS games, I can't myself figure out why one would chose to use a joystick on a PC over a mouse. However, I can't come up with a good reason NOT to offer users of a joystick the option of being somewhat competitive vs. players who use mice to aim. The problem I have with your "use inferior controls, get inferior results" argument is that it's needless. We have the code in place to increase the effectiveness of joystick controls, mice are still superior, and so long as you give it a toggle on/off option, mice players aren't effected. Essentially, if we have the capability to fix it, why not fix it?
To me it's win/win. Joystick players can use their preferred method of control on a PC without suffering as much from the detrimental effect of using a joystick to aim. Mouse users still maintain a superior position over Joystick users, but now have the added benefit of having a slightly more challenging experience vs. joystick users.
Its like the runners in the paralympics who use blades... should they be allowed to compete in the ordinary olympics? what if they win? will the other runners then chop their feet of and replace them with blades to be competitive?
Bottom line, you cant have assisted players competing with unassisted players.
Tangentially: If a fully-abled athelete can't beat a dude with PROSTHETIC legs in a race, then you just need to man the hell up and grow a pair. Don't come around to me complaining about him not producing lactic acid and bull like that. He's not the 6 Million Dollar Man.
But to main the point of your post, are you saying that only in MLG can competitions be fair and that outside of the MLG we have to live with it not being fair. Oh and I don't most consider their on-line play on the PC to be 'casual'.....